Talk:Lyoto Machida

i think we could add something to the page about how [he] is the god of mma. for a source, we could cite "his fight footage" Kingcrimson12345 (talk) 08:04, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

• I believe Fedor holds that title right now. Regalion (talk) 07:10, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

 Agreed on the Fedor comment. What a stupid suggestion anyway. Don't think I need to explain why.

There is a Polish version of the article. Please link it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.76.181.181 (talk) 10:06, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

• Done. Regalion (talk) 07:10, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
• i think there should be a section on the 'machida divide' about his fighting style which gained traction following his defeat win over tito. Nitron (talk) 22:36, 10 August 2008 (UTC)nitron

Machida's use of English

In terms of Machida's language, is it really necessary to include that his language, or lack of English would in any way hamper his ability to become champion? I believe this kind of talk borders on the xenophobic and is believed only by a fringe section of fans. Should not be included in Machida's article. There are many great fighters in the UFC who don't speak English, Anderson Silva is an example. His lack of English has not gotten in the way of his popularity or status as a mixed martial artist. Outside the UFC, Fedor is another example of a great fighter who always depends on an interpreter.24.30.49.127 (talk) 20:53, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

The claim that speaking English could help build Machida's fanbase comes from the referenced article, which is on the biggest MMA website on the internet. If you can reference another article from a comparable source that claims that speaking English will not have an effect on his following, then we can include that as well. -Captain Crawdad (talk) 00:08, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

That's fine, a reference from a columnist with an opinion published by sherdog does not prove the statement to be fact. The assertion seems to be the author's opinion rather than provable, measurable fact. (24.30.49.127 (talk) 03:48, 7 February 2009 (UTC)).

IIf you can prove the notion that Machida's lack of English is a marketing liability, by proving it is a widespread notion in the mma journalism community and not just 1 person's opinion, then you may put this in the article. Otherwise this is a biased assertion which should not be put on the article. I haven't read elsewhere how this hampers Anderson Silva's ability to be a 'marketable champion.' (24.30.49.127 (talk) 23:24, 11 February 2009 (UTC))

Well here's two more:

• "From a marketing standpoint there are obvious drawbacks. He's not particularly charismatic, doesn't speak English and he doesn't have an exciting style."
• The only drawbacks with Machida are that he isn't aesthetically pleasing for the casual fan to watch and he doesn't speak English.,

That's four total commentators so far saying Machida's English has an effect on his popularity. As an aside, here's two quotes I stumbled across about Anderson Silva's English, the first from his own manager:

• "the only thing holding {Anderson Silva} back from breaking through to be a superstar is his English."
• "{Anderson Silva's} inability to speak English well has not helped his star turn"

-Captain Crawdad (talk) 01:22, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Controversial Stance

On the initial paragraph, you say his stance is 'controversial'. Unfortunately the source you used does not confirm this assertion.

Someone put sources on the "controversial" remark, but they were invalid (they only showed he was being criticized by some) and I've removed them. The point is that being merely criticized is not the same as being controversial. hateless 22:46, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Recent edits to "fighting style" section

I have provided reasons for the recent changes I made to the "Fighting style" section, but those changes were reverted without explanation. I would like to get the reasons for the revert and try to come to a consensus here on the talk page to avoid an edit war. - Captain Crawdad (talk) 23:14, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Any reason why the obvious karate influence on his fighting style is edged-around? Yes, he fights with a cautious, hang-back then big hit approach, as stated, but this is very characteristic of people with training in shotokan karate. I understand that many UFC fans dislike acknowledging the success of karate tactics in the compeition - is this the reason? Shinji nishizono (talk) 21:49, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

The section is based on what reliable sources say, so I doubt it's not mentioned due to bias on the part of editors. If you have any reliable sources mentioning the connection I'm sure it can be included. --aktsu ^(t / c) 22:43, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Sumo

He actually trained Sumo for quite time... I'm trying to find realiable sources to quote. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thrapt (talk • contribs) 02:15, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

The reach conversion on wiki is wrong

74 in is about 1.88 M, 75 in is about 1.90 1/2 M and 77 in is about 1.95 1/2 M. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.219.166.18 (talk) 19:46, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Replied at Talk:Forrest Griffin. --aktsu ^(t / c) 19:58, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Judo???

Who was the idiot that changed the article saying that "Judo" is one of his fighting styles? There is no proof of this, not a single reference. I have corrected the article.