Talk:90210 (TV series)

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International Airings

In an attempt to clean up this article, someone added that it is 'rumoured' to first air in Australia on Cable network FOX8 on December 2, 2008. There is no source to accompany this. Network Ten announced it has the output deal with CBS Paramount and will air 90210 exclusivley in the 2009 season according to this reliable source] [1], a network press release. Sorry, but it's misleading to list it as airing on two different networks especially when there's no source to back it up.

This section has no sources. This is an American series not the international channels broadcasting the spin-off. ApprenticeFan (talk) 14:30, 25 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Title

Where did this "The Next Generation" bit come from? Star Trek did it, and so did Degrassi; I didn't see it mentioned in the sources I quickly perused for this show, however. Also, any comment in the text about rumors should be expunged. We're not a crystal ball, after all. Howa0082 (talk) 17:58, 2 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

New Cast Photo

There is a cast photo out but I have no clue how to upload it and all the other stuff that goes into the process. Maybe someone else can.

http://www.accesshollywood.com/article/9492/?__source=rss%7Cah_Latest Rosario lopez (talk) 23:53, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

We wouldn't be able to use that photo as it would violate image copyright guidelines at Wikipedia. Unless someone happens onto the set and takes a photo (unlikely), there's not much that can be done for now regarding a pic, I suspect. Lots of articles on shows end up with a title card grab, but that's some way off (and I'm not sure how well it meets the requirements either). Gusworld (talk) 00:17, 15 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Order of Returning Characters

From Wikipedia:Neutral point of view: "All Wikipedia articles and other encyclopedic content must be written from a neutral point of view, representing significant views fairly, proportionately, and without bias."

The easiest way to comply with this policy is to arrange the returning characters/actors according to the dates that their returns were announced.

That is the way the article was until certain anonymous editors—possibly fans of Shannen Doherty/Brenda Walsh—began attempting to place Doherty at the top of the "Returning characters" list, even though her return was announced well after the others. As we do not know the cast billing for the returning characters in the new show, there is no justification for doing this. The editors who've participated in this activity are invited to provide their reasoning here, and explain how these edits are neutral in accordance with Wikipedia policy. Thank you. --James26 (talk) 13:08, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Contradiction with regards to possible strike?

"...that The CW has begun casting even before a script has been completed. The show is set to start production on June 25, 2008. It could stop due to a possibility of a Screen Actors strike."

and later down that same introductory section it says, "The show will be unaffected by any Screen Actors strike, as the show is covered under the AFTRA Primetime contract."

Is this a contradiction? Or are they talking about the show itself is unaffected, but the CW's airing of it may be affected?

~thanks - and please clarify in the writing so it is not confusing in this way. ~ GoldenGoose100 (talk) 08:10, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies, I missed the earlier sentence when I updated the status of the show. The producers announced that the show was 'strike-proof' yesterday at the Press Tour as it is now under the AFTRA. I will alter the earlier paragraph to reflect this. (Richardm9 (talk) 15:40, 20 July 2008 (UTC))[reply]

Great success. Thanks. ~ GoldenGoose100 (talk) 17:12, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Adam Gregory

which one is it the white adam or the black adam?74.196.134.34 (talk) 21:33, 26 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Tori Spelling (Donna Martin)Not Appearing

Tori will not be in 90210 after this source confirmed it http://tv.yahoo.com/90210/show/43006/news/urn:newsml:eonlinekristen.com:20080811:TV-23b0c1a896a08f2bce5bd8fe9a8a22d7 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.83.198.20 (talk) 11:38, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think it has to go into the uncertain category for the time being, as some outlets are reporting that she is just trying to get a better deal. Lets not jump the gun on this.

Jason Priesetly

That AP report is probably a mistake, however instead of putting him as a returning character, lets say its uncertain until other media outlets jump on-board. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alebowgm (talk • contribs) 14:19, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Characters who will not be returning"

Simply saying "will not" is the same as saying "will never" (because it doesn't specify a time frame).

Since we can't see the future, I've simply changed this to "not expected." Even if an actor was to say "never," it's best for us to merely quote them, rather than predicting what will or won't happen down the road. 207.69.137.22 (talk) 10:53, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think that Brent Bozell's article, Toxic Beverly Hills, may be worthy of interest… Asteriks (talk) 06:45, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Stopped reading it after the insults started, but thanks. At any rate, I believe "not expected" is still the best encyclopedic term. --207.69.140.24 (talk) 08:54, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Episode articles

Before we have to go through this later, when it will be more of a hassle, we should cover this now. Per WP:NOTE, WP:FICT, WP:PLOT, WP:EPISODE, all episode articles must meet the notability requirements for a page to be created. A page with nothing but a plot summary does not meet such requirements. That means, a part from the pilot page, the rest don't need articles. Yes, I looked at the second episode page and it's full of information that has nothing to do with the second episode. Just because it occurred during that time does not mean that it was directly related to that episode. You cannot pack general 90210 information into every page to give the appearance of notability. Brief plot descriptions can be added to the table on the "List of episodes" page, as well as (sourced) the Nielsen ratings. Lastly, when the time comes that a page can be separated on its own, proper naming conventions are in order. In this case, you do not add "episode" to "Lucky Strike (90210)". You only list the name of the show, unless there are multiple 90210 pages with that same title. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 05:47, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Created by versus Developed by

Not sure why people keep putting Rob Thomas as the 'creator' of 90210 when the opening credits that have aired on every episode say that it is "Based on the series Beverly Hills 90210 created by Darren Starr" and then goes onto say 90210 is Developed by Rob Thomas... and the others. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alebowgm (talk • contribs) 01:50, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It should be "Developed by". BIGNOLE (Contact me) 03:00, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Too skinny controversy

I'm wondering if it would appropriate to mention in the article about the controversy surrounding the stars of the show Shenae Grimes and Jessica Stroup and the ~~fact~~ rumors that they have eating disorders, among other things. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/17/90210-costars-plan-too-th_n_127232.html. Merely a suggestion I'm making. --Crackthewhip775 (talk) 21:56, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think it should really be mentioned unless it comes to affect the show in some way. -- James26 (talk) 07:12, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Transcripts?

Are transcripts of the episodes available somewhere?--92.230.34.190 (talk) 08:53, 30 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes there are.63.168.68.102 (talk) 02:02, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Lauren Conrad as Kayla Andress

Is there any truth to this?63.168.68.102 (talk) 02:02, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fansite tag

I fail to see the notability of the entire "Production and casting history" section. I think that anything of encyclopedic value that may be in this section has already been accomplished in the "Characters" section. This looks a lot like information that is "of importance only to a small population of enthusiastic fans of the subject in question" per WP:FAN. Please do not remove the fansite tag unless you plan on deleting the entire section or the issue has been resolved with a consensus. KuyaBriBri^Talk 16:53, 17 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Casting informations have been put in many series's articles (such as Desperate Housewives). I've reworked the writing to make it less trivia-like. But if you have such big issues with the article, instead of tagging it why don't you actually help solving the problem?--Whadaheck (talk) 00:19, 23 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I was hoping to get some other opinions first before totally removing the text and then . And I was a little peeved that someone removed the maintenance tag I placed without any other change or any explanation. I still fail to see how this information is important but at least the presentation is a lot better now. Thank you. KuyaBriBri^Talk 05:34, 24 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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VALERIE BURNS

Who is she and how do you knwo what episodes she'll be in?68.225.74.103 (talk) 02:07, 6 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Screech

Is that Justin whatshisname guy who did the comedy porn video going to reprise his role as Screech? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.86.168.132 (talk) 21:46, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Request for comment on articles for individual television episodes and characters

A request for comments has been started that could affect the inclusion or exclusion of episode and character, as well as other fiction articles. Please visit the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(fiction)#Final_adoption_as_a_guideline. Ikip (talk) 11:05, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

introduction

I felt that the top of the page was quite long, and very hard to get into / read adequately. I've put a {Very long} tag on to this effect.~CortalUX^Talk? 22:52, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ryan Matthews link

The links points to Nascar driver Ryan Matthews. I'm not sure how to create a new article for the character.