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Jamie Foxx Promoting His Movie & Cutoff Controversies

During The Top 5 Results Show Jamie Fox Promoted His New Movie The Soloist Successfully And Then Got Cutoff. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bvernon199 (talk • contribs) 22:42, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Per our policies talkpages are not chat forums or to be used for general discussion that do not directly address improving this article. Also we need to remain civil to one another. For chart proposals please develop those in your own userspace. -- Banjeboi 02:02, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yahoo publishes results early?

Yahoo was reporting around 7:30 pacific time, before the show even aired, that Kris Allen won Idol. Did they do this shit last season, report it before the show aired? I've seen the last couple season finales and that didn't happen. Fox advertises the finale as being live (i.e. a circa 15-second delay), so I assumed that at, oh, 8:10 pm (west coast time, my time), I was watching something that was being taped at 8:10 pm in LA. --98.232.181.201 (talk) 03:19, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The results were announced at 10:00 pm Eastern time, which is 7:00 pm Pacific time; the finale was live for eastern and central time zones only, it is tape-delayed for the west coast. --Jackieboy87 (talk · contribs) 03:22, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Itunes promoting

Why should there be two indentical sections on Itunes one at the start and one at the end? Only to promote Itunes. Wikipedia is not for that! Suggest to remove top mentioning. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.127.162.156 (talk) 14:53, 22 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Done A user moved it to the top, and another restored the deleted bottom one, creating two of the same. I now deleted the top one since it isn't as important there as the other info. Thanks for keeping an eye on it. --Mtjaws (talk) 18:07, 23 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Merge proposal

Grand Finale (American Idol 8) should be merged with American Idol (season 8)#Finale. The article can easily fit into the main article, and currently is a WP:Content fork. iMatthew : Chat 19:15, 23 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No. Gage (talk) 07:10, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Besides that, we've been doing this for a couple of seasons now. It works well because putting it here would simply crowd an already crowded page. --User:Woohookitty ^{Diamming fool!} 08:27, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Disagree - The Grand Finale is a different event as opposed to the show. It's more of an actual concert rather than just a results show. It may have added historicity if it is able to launch a music superstar.--23prootie (talk) 22:20, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Have any of you read Wikipedia:Content fork? iMatthew : Chat 22:45, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How on Earth is that a content fork? -- Banjeboi 23:08, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Disagree. Grand Finale (American Idol 8) is an appropriate sub article to this and should be represented here summary style. -- Banjeboi 23:08, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Disagree - I think the page is too cluttered if all the finale info isn't split off on its own page. CloversMallRat (talk) 05:24, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

elimination chart

I changing the 'Elim' to palegoldenrod as they are too similar to the wildcard coloursFrazzler9 (talk) 13:49, 24 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

megan and anoop top 13

i know Ryan never said they were the bottom 4... but it was heavely implied... ryan would say to JaSMINE... come to centre stage please... then to Kris ... you are safe... then to Megan... come down to centre stage... he only referenced Megan and Anoop as being 'safe' in comparison to Jasmine and Jorge respectively...I will put it btm 4 for Megan and Anoop even though I know that it will be reverted Frazzler9 (talk) 15:13, 24 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That is entirely original research and has no place on Wikipedia. I have reverted you. --Jackieboy87 (talk · contribs) 16:14, 24 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

New Performance List Suggestion

I copied this performance summary list of the 'Popstars The Rivals' wikipedia article. I think it looks more proffessional.. What do You guys think?

Frazzler9 (talk) 23:44, 24 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't make any sense to me to have this AND the elimination chart. Keep them separate. --User:Woohookitty ^{Diamming fool!} 08:27, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have no idea how this might help anything as it is more confusing than what we already have. Sorry. -- Banjeboi 08:39, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No they're meant to be in place of the performance lists... Atm we have those weekly lists. I think this example will work better as it says 'btm 3', 'btm 2' . 'elim' right next to the name so you don't have to waste time trying to find the eliminated name and their position in the performance list. here is a better example:

Week 2 (1 November 2003)

Semi Finals Group 1 (18 February 2009)

Theme: Billboard Hot 100 hits

Order	Artist	Song (original artists)	Result	Notes
1	Jackie Tohn	"A Little Less Conversation" (Elvis Presley)	Eliminated
2	Ricky Braddy	"A Song for You" (Donny Hathaway)	Eliminated	Chosen for Wild Card
3	Alexis Grace	"I Never Loved a Man (The Way I Love You)" (Aretha Franklin)	Advanced	Highest Votes Female
4	Brent Keith	"Hicktown" (Jason Aldean)	Eliminated
5	Stevie Wright	"You Belong with Me" (Taylor Swift)	Eliminated
6	Anoop Desai	"Angel of Mine" (Monica)	Eliminated	Chosen for Wild Card
7	Casey Carlson	"Every Little Thing He Does Is Magic" (The Police)	Eliminated
8	Michael Sarver	"I Don't Want to Be" (Gavin DeGraw)	Advanced	Top 2 Males
9	Ann Marie Boskovich	"(You Make Me Feel Like) A Natural Woman" (Aretha Franklin)	Eliminated
10	Stephen Fowler	"Rock with You" (Michael Jackson)	Eliminated
11	Tatiana Del Toro	"Saving All My Love for You" (Whitney Houston)	Eliminated	Chosen for Wild Card
12	Danny Gokey	"Hero" (Mariah Carey)	Advanced	Top 2 Males

Frazzler9 (talk) 10:20, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What don't you understand about no? Gage (talk) 03:37, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What don't you understand about the fact that I don't value your opinion...

This format is used on the Pop Idol page so if you want to keep consistency then you should stick to the original Idol wikipedia article. This way looks more professional and the notes section is good for putting facts like Alexis, Allison and Lil were the highest voted females and information about the save etc... 92.2.27.46 (talk) 21:39, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, the Pop Idol page was only done recently - I should know, I helped do most of it. If anything, the Pop Idol pages should change to these American Idol pages, which are far more established. Pop Idol doesnt even run anymore, making it sort of irrelevant. (Kyleofark (talk) 15:22, 29 May 2009 (UTC))[reply]

Well if you made the pop idol page then did you make these tables. They are really good and are more clear and simple to read. 92.4.65.142 (talk) 22:02, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I made some of the tables, but the first few were already done by someone else, who I imagine thought that Pop Idol would be under the same category as The X Factor, which followed it as such in the UK (Kyleofark (talk) 23:13, 29 May 2009 (UTC))[reply]

Votes?

So what was the final score of votes between Kris and Adam? This is something American Idol never mentions on the show (or rarely). And its pretty important for validity.24.61.21.58 (talk) 05:02, 30 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]