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MJ

Hi there.

With regard to the recent edit/revert on

Please note that the edit was in good faith; in conjunction with cubs197 (talk · contribs) we looked at the request to edit this semi-protected page, we checked out the references, we checked the FA on MJ, and there was no reason not not make the edit.

I certainly did not intend to "ignore the hard work", as you said in the edit summary; we are all trying to make Wikipedia better, and I do appreciate your intentions too.

That said: due process means that I should now start a discussion on the talk page, and try to help reach a consensus on the issue. I have started this, in Talk:List of best-selling music artists#Michael Jackson (again). I look forward to your comments there; I remain perfectly neutral, and all I can do is try to facilitate a policy-based reasoned, agreeable decision based on what everyone thinks.

Best wishes, Chzz ► 21:05, 11 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Page protection

User:Johnali123 got off his 3RR block and put Michael Jackson higher up on the list again at List of best-selling music artists. He has been 3RR warned again but since this dispute continues, I requested full page protection to get him and User:Mjlouisdbz14 to the talk page to discuss their edits. Momo san ^Gespräch 16:04, 12 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like a possible sockpuppet maybe in the mix, User:Passwordpass. I made a sockpuppet report to confirm my findings, SPI Report. Momo san ^Gespräch 16:34, 12 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

i am not i have give the right sources

http://www.michaeljackson.com/ie/news/michael-jacksons-it-be-presented-theaters-around-world http://press.sonymusic.com/2009/06/26/sony-comments-on-the-passing-of-michael-jackson http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1614815/20090626/jackson_michael.jhtml http://edition.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Music/03/05/uk.jackson.comeback/ http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/06/26/2609049.htm 2) http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/Story?id=8050704&page=1 3) h ttp://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/WinterConcert/wireStory?id=7075284 4) h ttp://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/07/06/entertainment/michaeljackson/main5137816.shtml 5) http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/11/06/entertainment/main3461884.shtml 6) http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1614815/20090626/jackson_michael.jhtml 7)http://cbs2.com/entertainment/michael.jackson.hospitalized.2.1059895.html http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/26/arts/music/26jackson.html?_r=1 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/25/AR2009062503127.html http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/wire/wpix-michael-jackson-heart-attack,0,6959872.story http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29531056/ http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Showbiz-News/Michael-Jackson-Memorial-Service---In-Numbers/Article/200907115331455 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8121749.stm 14) http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/artists/f27ec8db-af05-4f36-916e-3d57f91ecf5e etc e please read all of them they say 750 million —Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnali123 (talk • contribs) 22:57, 12 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have seen them all, and they all look like they have copied the figures from each other.--Harout72 (talk) 23:25, 12 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Harout72

you claim that cnn are right about but in the sources below it says he has sold 750 million thats 2 cnn soruces agianst 1 of your other cnn source you have provided

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Music/06/26/michael.jackson.album.sales/
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Music/03/05/uk.jackson.comeback/index.html

also if you work this hard on michael jackson sales why dont you work this hard with the beatles, elvis or any other best selling artists

and you claim the daily telegraph are right but they also say here sold 750 million http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/michael-jackson/5642353/Michael-Jackson-Key-facts-about-the-life-of-the-world-famous-singer.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.6.199.143 (talk) 07:04, 13 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

if you read Thugs-n-Harmonyharout section in best selling artist Harout72 says articles published by major record companies such as Sony Music are acceptable but for michael jackson its different why is this

WQA

Hello, Harout72. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Wikiquette alerts regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 16:58, 12 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Archive Records

I have added more to the rationale, hopefully this will be convincing enough for those opposing that the claim of 750 million originated from Raymone Bain, and as such the primary source is a publicist which should not be accepted for obvious reasons. Perhaps to end this once and for all we need data from sources such as CNN, FOX, BBC and other reputable outlets giving any indication of sales prior to November 2006, and preferably from 2000 onwards so a logical justification can be reached with the rest of the evidence presented. I have searched the Google News archives and much of it remains in pay-per-view sites, and only a few are credible, perhaps if we can locate more archive sales data from a few years ago? JFonseka (talk) 10:35, 13 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thomas Anders in Rock

1.Back in 1987 touring Hungary Thomas Anders performed Rock'n'roll Medley: - When The Saints Go Marching In - Hound Dog - Tutti Frutti - When The Saints Go Marching In 2. During his solo-career Thomas Anders covered at least 3 Beatles' songs: Michelle, Hey Jude (live) and With A Little Help Of My Friens (on TV). 3. In 1992 he performed Sound Of Silence by Simon & Gurfunkel on TV. 4. In 2006 he was involved in the project: http://www.thomasanders.ru/creative/projects/music_team/discogr/wftd.htm where he covered a song http://www.discogs.com/Fury-In-The-Slaughterhouse-Wont-Forget-These-Days/master/143954 classified as alternative rock. 5. His albums Different and Whispers can be classified as Album-oriented rock. Isn't it enough to say that Anders has covered this genre? Bolafik (talk) 17:07, 13 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the links. Please let's ask ourselves one question here, does Anders cover Rock genre in his studio albums? And the answer to that is no, we should only insert the rock genre if he has tracks within his solo albums which sound like rock music, which he doesn't. So please, if the anonymous IP user is you who constantly inserts the Rock genre, please stop.--Harout72 (talk) 02:01, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]