Talk:National Democracy (Poland)

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Party?

It would appear in Poland there was never a political party called National Democratic Party (Partia Narodowo-Demokratyczna), instead, there was a political movement National Democrats (Narodowa Demokracja, endecja), which spawned various political parties. Thus endecja is an equivalent of sanacja, but not Bezpartyjny Blok Współpracy z Rządem. Considering this article was created as a vandalism with meaningless content, I think there should be no objections if I move it to endecja. It should go nice with sanacja.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus ^Talk 01:45, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

POV

The original polish article is currently being disputed so should be this straight on translation. The artcle tends to present the National Democrat movement in most favourable way and omitting several importand facts from its history. Here are few examples of facts or ideas not mentioned in the article: nationalism, antisemitsm, loyality policies toward imperial Russia prior to 1917, murder of the president Narutowicz etc, etc. --213.200.154.74 19:18, 31 October 2006 (UTC) [1][reply]

Changing article name

I believe "National Democracy" is too broad a term for this article. The title ought to be either "National Democracy Movement" or "National Democratic Movement". --A.Molnar (talk) 01:26, 7 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Is this more popular in the literature?--_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 02:36, 7 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There was a party by the same name in Italy as well, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Democracy_(Italy) .

It's just too broad a term. It should either be National Democratic Movement or National Democratic Party, and the same should be done for the Italy article. Just like you have Liberal Democracy and Liberal Democratic Parties or Movements, but they're not all just called Liberal Democracy. --A.Molnar (talk) 05:06, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Polish name of this political entity was "Narodowa Demokracja" ("National Democracy"). What will be gained by altering its name in English? Nihil novi (talk) 05:31, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If it can be demonstrated that the Italian context is as popular, this article may be moved to National Democracy (Poland).--_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 07:18, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"National Democracy (Italy)" existed only 1977–79. Nihil novi (talk) 09:24, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In English the title is not informative enough. National Democratic Movement would tell you that we're talking about a political movement, a line of thought, etc. National Democracy itself doesn't tell you much, and I personally didn't know what it was referring to. Is it a party? A movement? An ideology? The most accurate title would be "National Democratic Movement (Poland)". --A.Molnar (talk) 15:24, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Do we need the movement (and at the very least it would be lowercase - National Democracy movement or National Democratic movement? The article on US Christian right is at "Christian right", not Christian right movement. There is communism, but no communist movement, and so on. Per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (common names), and search for common names (650 for Poland "National Democracy" -movement vs 26 for Poland "National Democracy movement", I think current name is the best (most popular and accurate).--_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 17:49, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. We have no justification to expand the original name. Nihil novi (talk) 06:07, 13 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

PS. Poland "National Democratic movement" does give 313 hits, so it is not unpopular, but doesn't seem more popular than "National Democracy", so I see no grounds for change (but enough grounds for some redirects/disambigs, which I created).--_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 18:28, 13 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

quote"Imperial Germany's policy of Germanizing its Polish territorial holdings."

clarification please (i also tend to doubt NPOV status) 09:44, 14 August 2009 (UTC)09:44, 14 August 2009 (UTC)85.216.89.205 (talk)