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I recommend a Wikipedia editor to put the sign on top of the page stating the controversial nature of this page. This topic and especially the content by the authors of this book is at best a controversial personal opinion and hardly deserves a seperate page on Wikipedia. Imagine different racistic views having their own page here. This page and its notorious and presumptive table has already made its way into other websites while this is an unfair and relatively unchallenged personal opinion of two authors from an industrial country. I will get into this more later but the above suggestion should be taken seriously by the editors. Gmotamedi (talk) 20:34, 25 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's not relevant since this article merely concerns the book IQ and the Wealth of Nations by Lynn and Vanhanen. The book itself is of course controversial and this has been already addressed in the article but the content of the article just cites the IQ table presented in the book and because of that, it isn't in any way controversial that such claims are presented in that work, is it? And concerning the notability of this research, I would like to say that mr. Lynn seems to be very prolific author of such works and such a controversial and debated publication should certainly have it's own article in Wikipedia. In any case, these so called racist views are just as noteworthy as any other views if they are notable enough since Wikipedia isn't censored in any way. 62.78.227.13 (talk) 03:19, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Source citing

There is a currently a disclaimer on this page saying the article cites no sources, there clearly are reference notes and also this article's primary subject is a published book which is widely available. Whoever put the disclaimer on the page was being mendacious and the disclaimer should be removed promptly. 78.152.249.134 (talk) 13:44, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Iranian Average IQ is estimated to be <93.

According to statistics from Irib.com and farsnews the average IQ of Iranian people (note: iranian) is about 93. If there is any source or any information available that could prove that iranian peoples average IQ is 84 than please publish them here. I now some other sources that says iranian peoples average IQ is about 87 but then they count around 5 million refugees from Iraq, afghanistan and kurds. --Achemenidian (talk) 18:44, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I just read the articel about Richard Lynn. And according to that articel Richard never tested or got any information of the average IQ in Iran.

What he did was: "Based on the IQs of Neighbouring or Other Comparable Countries."

He took the IQ of Afghanistan which was 83 and then he gave Iran automatically the IQ 84 and India the IQ 81 based on the average IQ of Afghanistan. Isn't that ridiculuos?

http://www.rlynn.co.uk/pages/article_intelligence/t4.asp —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.251.243.64 (talk) 22:44, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You read it backward. He gave Afghanistan 83 based on Iran's 84 and India's 81. There are numerous IQ test in India and the average is 81, according to Lynn, of course. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.77.23.54 (talk) 23:48, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Rankings

Based on each country's average IQ, it should be readily apparent to just about anyone that the numeric rankings are incorrect. For instance, Australia, Denmark, France, Mongolia, and the USA are all tied for 9th. The ranking system punishes countries based on alphabetization.

--67.181.165.220 (talk) 04:30, 10 April 2009 (UTC)43 year old American male, IQ 147[reply]

Agreed. I will change this myself when I have the time. Flamarial (talk) 20:54, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cleanup

I remove the October 2006 cleanup tag from section ==Related studies==. If someone wants to add it back I understand but please write a note so we know what need specifics need to be improved. RJFJR (talk) 16:52, 25 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]