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What is the difference between the different grades of listed buildings?Theresa knott 12:22 Mar 27, 2003 (UTC)

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Famous Listed Building

I've added The Isokon, the [Royal Festival Hall]] and Keeling House. I don't want to begin a situation where everyone sticks their favourite listed building on here, but these are particularly important examples of modern listed building: The Isokon was the first listed Modern Movement building, the RFH the first Grade I-listed post-war building and Keeling the first listed example of modern council housing.

FrFintonStack —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.1.199.36 (talk • contribs) 16:02, 21 March 2006

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Grade X listing

What about mentioning the proposed Grade X listing. This is a category for particularly horrible buildings of no architectural or historical merit whatsoever. Grade X listing would hopefully speed up their demolishment and replacment. A number of speculative Grade X lists have been compiled. Probably not a good idea to include any list of buildings though as this would be a somewhat subjective decision. 141.5.194.4 09:59, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I can tell, this is not an official listing or any real proposal for one, nor is it particularly noteable Nil Einne 15:26, 18 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Turning into a list

It seems that many of the updates to this article are just additions to the Famous listed buildings section. Whilst you might readily argue that all listed buildings are notable since they are declared by experts to be notable for preservation, I doubt whether all the buildings being added are famous. There are already lists of listed buildings chained from this article. Could a little restraint be exercised before someone prunes the whole lot out? :) Oosoom ^Talk to me 20:05, 23 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have noticed this trend too! I have just added a link at the top of the English/Welsh examples to point at GI, II, & II* categories. This should act as a place for people who want to put in "me too" entries - the lists in this article should be winnowed down to provide a representative handful of examples for each Grade from across the country and across the ages, e.g. a public building, a public space, a structure, a commercial building, a station, a private dwelling, a church, and a monument or curiousity. Someone needs to be bold on this, though should candidates be discussed here first? Ephebi 14:26, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Definitely excessive in quantity. I was going to simply add a comment here complaining about it, but your 'be bold' suggestion is a good one, so I've instead gone ahead and done some extensive trimming, based on no particular criteria (so feel free to tweak my selection). Guinness (talk) 17:14, 1 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I suggest that we put a limit of 5 examples, per type on this page and simply revert additions, to prevent it from growing again. This is what I'm going to do, from time to time, unless the consensus says otherwise. Guinness (talk) 12:02, 3 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Grade Definitions

As this question has been asked, in a way, and not answered, I'm going to ask anyway: What is the difference between a Grade II and Grade II* building? I haven't read the whole thing yet because I'm at work and need to get back to it, but if this isn't answered in the article, I hope it will be answered here. SailorAlphaCentauri 20:14, 25 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nevermind. I scanned the article further and found the answer I sought. SailorAlphaCentauri 20:15, 25 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Adding an article on a new building

My Great-Auntie lives in a Grade II listed building, well part of it, she owns it all, 10-14 Churchgate, Hallaton, Leicestershire. Would this be ok to start an article on, or will it be deleted as non-notable? Jimmmmmmmmm 22:16, 26 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure if you're serious but...I don't think Grade II listing = notability in itself (there are just so many Grade II buildings), but of course some Grade II buildings ARE notable. You might, though, decide that it's more appropriate to briefly cover this building and any others in the area in Hallaton, if the article exists. Barnabypage 12:39, 28 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

University of Birmingham

Is the whole campus really Grade II listed per today's edit? Barnabypage 17:37, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Where does one find an authoritative list??

I imagine that Wotton House is Grade I, but don't know, and don't know where to look. -- Hoary (talk) 12:19, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

[1] might be useful for this sort of question (might be worth an external link). --86.129.6.0 (talk) 21:56, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

An odd redirect

Right now Architectural preservation is a redirect to this article. Needless to say, the UK is not the only place in the world where architectural preservation occurs, nor is all preservation even in the UK on listed buildings. There is a more general article begging to be written. - Jmabel | Talk 03:32, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have changed the redirect to Architectural conservation, which isn't a perfect article but is more appropriate than this one. Barnabypage (talk) 17:16, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Unencyclopedic content

The following three paragraphs read like an advice column, in my opinion:

Listing a building imposes severe restrictions on what the owner might wish to change or modify in the structure or its fittings. Thus trying to refit windows by plastic double glazed units would be barred by most inspectors (who actually implement and check all proposed changes). Listing normally covers both the exterior and interior, so that major changes to a floor layout (for example) would need approval before any changes could be implemented.

The Listed Property Owners Club advise that ANY alterations to a listed building must first be discussed with your conservation officer, they are based at the local council and are responsible for the protection of listed buildings. Some work to a listed property should also be VAT zero rated, you should seek specialist advice about this as there are lots of "grey" areas.

Another important consideration for listed properties is insurance. Many listed buildings are under insured. If a listed building has a normal insurance policy it will usually only cover the cost of "normal" repairs. BUT if a listed building is damaged the conservation officer will usually insist that repairs are like for like. Many insurance companies do not take into consideration the additional costs for specialist workmanship and materials. If there is a shortfall in the amount covered it is then the owners responsibility to pay the difference.

Any comments before I remove them? Red van man (talk) 16:16, 18 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed but would make more sense if abbreviated & re-worded under a subheading such as "Consequences of listing" Ephebi (talk) 11:48, 19 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed and I'm not even convinced it needs paraphrasing - "A listed building may not be demolished, extended or altered without special permission" seems to express the point adequately. Barnabypage (talk) 12:15, 19 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The first paragraph is fine, although the second really looks like it's been lifted directly from an advice website. The third should definitely not be removed though, as it is clearly an important aspect of the consequences of listing a building. I think you should paraphrase, rather than removing. Johnhousefriday (talk) 21:10, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wording is definitely a problem, but I agree that it's quite encyclopaedic to discuss the last paragraph as one of the consequences of listing. Nyttend (talk) 13:43, 27 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you all for the constructive comments - I've expanded paragraph 2 of the article to include some of this material. Red van man (talk) 08:40, 28 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Unclear sentence

"It is proposed that the three Grades I, II* and II then apply to all Designated Buildings and Sites." There seems to be a verb missing. Kdammers (talk) 04:25, 29 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]