User talk:Hu12

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Another key to the problem here, {name of contentious editor}. You don't see yourself as having an opinion; you see yourself as bearing the Truth. You perceive your biases as neutral..

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Welcome

Welcome to the talk page . --Hu12 (talk) 19:46, 16 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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When you;re a boot...

I see a very prolofic spammer adding their non-notable amateur album reviews to many an album article. Based on the username it looks like a clear WP:COI issue as well. Any chance you can keep a watch on this website. If tit gets too bad the site should put awarded a "blackie" The Real Libs-speak politely 15:25, 21 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Obvious username violation, reviewrinserepeat.com. Delt with accordingly. I've added a Spam report, so others can also keep a look out for this. Cleanup is needed. thanks libs..--Hu12 (talk) 15:44, 21 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The HAMMER!! Strike like lightning. Your username should be Thor. The Real Libs-speak politely 15:46, 21 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

not that I am whining or anything...

But why do I not have this credential attached to my accountishness? On the rarity that I create pages or re-directs related to WP:MUSIC and WP GUITAR... I would love to know that I can be trusted to do this without an npp wasting his/her valuable time spinning their wheels and checking me out. The Real Libs-speak politely 14:01, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It really comes down to being someone who regularly creates articles. You are of course trusted, and have rollbacker rights. Besides being a long standing delet-ionist. You woulden't want to send the wrong message, would you?...LOL. Chances are any NPP reviewing will have been a wikipedian for less time with fewer edits than you,

Done Go create some articles.--Hu12 (talk) 15:23, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It feels like a halo. :-) The Real Libs-speak politely 17:48, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of PROD from National Research Center for Women & Families

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:)

thank you Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 17:39, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

YW. Good work;) --Hu12 (talk) 17:40, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks from me, too. =) -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 00:36, 28 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Admin's Barnstar

		The Admin's Barnstar
		For all of the work you do dealing with the spam-blacklist and spam-whitelist. It's a thankless job that seems to be never ending without much recognition. So I hereby recognize you with the Admin's Barnstar! -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 00:39, 28 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks Gogo Dodo! Cheers--Hu12 (talk) 14:47, 28 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

UAA

Why was my edit reverted on UAA? I thought the username was clearly a violation of policy. I am not a regular there, so I am not sure, but the user was not blocked. Please let me know.--LAA Fan^sign _review 16:18, 28 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Saw you reverted back. Thanks. --LAA Fan^sign _review 16:24, 28 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry about that. Not sure how that happend. I had multiple browser windows open and the computer was lagging. Probably right clicked somewhere the (obviously) wrong Item on my watchlist. :(--Hu12 (talk) 16:26, 28 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. The same thing happened to me yesterday. ;)--LAA Fan^sign _review 21:29, 28 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Removal/blacklisting of Matrikon Inc

Hi hu12,

Trying to figure out why Matrikon Inc was added to the Wikipedia blacklist.

I can see that several of the external links submitted for French, Spanish, Chinese, and German pages were flagged as spam. These links were to language-specific video presentations on the subject matter; no registration, no products pushed. As such, I believe they were mistakenly flagged and should be reinstated, as there are very few language-specific resources available on this topic.

I also see that the most recent activity performed before deletion/blacklisting was addition of about 4 links involving industrial protocols to pages comparing those protocols with the OPC protocol on our blog. The end content was applicable and relevant so I'm not really sure why it acted as a catalyst to the blacklisting/purging of the entire company from Wikipedia. A click-through to the content would have shown a balanced overview comparing these protocols to each other. I'd leave a link to an example article, but I can't because of the blacklist.

As this seems to be simple misunderstanding, I would like the blacklist to be reconsidered.

Thank you.

Poking you for your opinion on a subject NOT concerning spam links

Hey Hu12. I want to poke your brain on a Wiki-thing that doesn't involve spam. There once was a user named Luminifer who created an article for a band called Pain Hertz. Mr. Luminifer is the main contributor to that page (pretty much the only contributor). Turns out Mr. Luminifer is a member of the band (no surprise) COI aside... Pain Hertz has been up'd for AfD. Mr. Luminifer has voted keep. Following this a suspicious account named Amalthya also voted keep. The vote is suspicious because it was only that account's second edit to the Wik (the first being 2+ years ago) Then another suspicious keep vote showed up this time from a shiny new account named Mozucat. This account had little-to-nil article space edits and no AfD edits prior to today. As it turns, out a simple Google search revealed that these 2 sparse accounts are both listed at Luminifer's Last.FM profile space as friends. And, Luminifer is listed as friends of these 2 new accounts on their Last.FM profiles. The entire AfD is starting to "odour-up" of a meat smell which is getting stronger as the debate stays active. I would like your opinion on whether this vote has been tainted enough to strike the meaty comments... or whether another process is available to weed out the burger-bunch and make the debate un-skewed by "bologna" votes. Is that enough meatpuppet wordations? :-) Appreciate your time reviewing this. Thanks! Have a nice day! The Real Libs-speak politely 16:51, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You are incorrect in your assumptions about being "friends" (namespace coincidences across domains are interesting, but not conclusive, and if they are the same people, being friends on a social networking site is hardly a meaningful thing) - and also your deduction that Mozucat is a new user, as detailed by their contributions, which have occurred for a period of over a year. It is an interesting coincidence, but I have not sent out any last.fm messages - I would go so far as to say that because of the lack of notification done when the article was nominated for deletion, of course only obscure fans are going to notice that AfD. People on last.fm are likely to be people more active in this music scene as well. Regardless, it is not a ballot, so I'm not sure why you want/need the votes stricken from the record - why not leave that up to the admin? Regarding your claim that I'm a member of this band, apart from that being a violation of WP:OUTING, I'm not sure why you think so in the first place. Luminifer (talk) 20:19, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Libs, canvassing and meat puppetry are very serious issues. If you have solid proof than you may file a WP:SPI, but not without good cause. If indeed Lunimifer is a member of the band then that is an egregious COI violation. Triplestop x3 20:51, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Late reply. The COI issue, to me, was not as pressing an issue as the other. I was keen to AGF that any attempts to prove notability would be sincere whether it was a WP:COI violation or not. There were no violations of canvassing (within the Wikipedia talk pages) by the article creator or the suspect accounts. But external internet sites did show a strong possibility of collusion. It sets a precedence for doing account name searches when there is suspicion of vote-stacking. This AfD resulted in blatantly false accusations of WP:OUTING (likely to re-direct attention from the AfD itself). So care would have to be taken to make it clear that 'vote-stacking' investigations do take place... and results could tarnish accounts if they are caught. The WP:OUTING claim brought up during this AfD were bogus because the user making the claim had, in fact, outed himself. Writing a definitive guideline for "collusion seeking" would prove tricky to avoid this type of system gaming to happen again. It's all moot in the end as far as this AfD goes. The closing administrator said the meat-puppetry was obvious and those votes were rejected. And even if they had been included the article would have been deleted regardless. These sorts of tarnished wiki-processes take place every day. But at least we can still rid the project of a few spam links once and a while... eh Hu12. Have a nice, spam free, day! The Real Libs-speak politely 19:39, 5 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Triplestop, Hu2... It is my feeling that a lot of what Libs has said here is false, but if you don't want to hear what my particular disagreements are, that's fine. I don't want to start even more trouble, as I've had enough of this site after that fiasco. Luminifer (talk) 22:57, 5 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

CSD

For future reference, is there a CSD template I could have used for Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Nalxhal, or is it just one of those blatantly obvious cases that slides between the bins? Disclaimer: I ask out of curiosity and workload reduction, I really could not care less about whatever drama may be infesting speedy deletions this week. - 2/0 (cont.) 21:06, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I find most speediable userpages fall into the following; {{Db-g1}} nonsense, {{Db-g2}} test pages, and {{Db-g11}} for userpage spam. Cases like User:Nalxhal with vios of WP:UP#COPIES, WP:MYSPACE or WP:NOTWEBHOST are also very common. There are no specific templates for those (that I'm aware of) so try and use this one, {{db|Put some reason here}}. May take a while longer, because it puts it in Category:Unspecified pages for speedy deletion, but at least it flexable. Cheers--Hu12 (talk) 22:47, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That MfD is being reverted, could you address this? Triplestop x3 23:17, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Spambot

08:16, 20 May 2008 Hu12 protected Spambot ‎ (repeated vandalisn by anons [edit=autoconfirmed:move=autoconfirmed])

I'd like to review this to see if semiprotection is still necessary, nearly 18 months later. This is part of my large scale review of all longstanding indefinite semiprotections. Please see the discussion on talk:Spambot. --TS 00:38, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

WP:GLAM

In case you haven't noticed, there is a proposal to develop a WP:GLAM guideline (Galleries, Libraries, Archives and Museums, see m:GLAM) in this discussion. The idea is to advise experts from suitable institutions how they might contribute to articles, including how they might add links to their own institutions. I think the general plan is excellent, but obviously some care needs to be taken to avoid driving a tunnel through WP:EL because already it is sometimes difficult to explain why it is necessary to revert links added by SPA accounts. This is just FYI, no reply needed. Johnuniq (talk) 06:02, 5 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

DOC links

A person from New Zealand Department of Conservation has asked permission to fix broken links to their website. Given the mess around Filmtvfan, I am asking for wider feedback before we allow or deny this request. The request is at User:Conservation ranger. Please comment at User talk:Conservation ranger.-gadfium 23:05, 7 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much for the note. Since the user has declared his COI and with yourself and other New Zealand editors are creating oversight, fixing broken existing links seems to be ok. However, Stuartyeates suggestion of a bot to deal with the redirects seems more practical. The addition of any new links seems better left to long time trusted editors such as yourself. One area this person from the DOC could be very helpful is in the area of photo's. Supplying quality pictures and images in the appropriate NZ articles is an area where User:Conservation ranger would be an great asset for Wikipedia, more so than links. May also be able to get additional oversight from Wikipedia:COI/N. I'll Post a few things over there also. Cheers. --Hu12 (talk) 16:42, 8 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

askgeo.org links

I noticed this morning that there was a sudden proliferation of links to this site on US State pages. Everyone I've checked (so far) has been added by a different IP with no other edits. The site doesn't have ads (yet) but appears to be a one of those dime-a-dozen geography stat aggregator sites. I wouldn't be surprised if they added advertising later. What do you think? OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 14:20, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

askgeo.org: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com

AskGeo Inc, and the Domain as "Created On:06-Aug-2009 08:10:28 UTC"[1]. Seems like pure marketing/spam. WP:ELNO#4. Additionaly they are both citation spamming here and Image spamming on commons. Seems fairly sophisticated, for a new contributor. There's probably more to this, than AskGeo.

Some Accounts

Sakhani (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · blacklist hits · AbuseLog · what links to user page · count · COIBot · Spamcheck · user page logs · x-wiki · status · Edit filter search · Google · StopForumSpam)

commons:Special:Contributions/Sakhani

Usgeowiki (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · blacklist hits · AbuseLog · what links to user page · count · COIBot · Spamcheck · user page logs · x-wiki · status · Edit filter search · Google · StopForumSpam)

commons:Special:Contributions/Usgeowiki Image spamming account

Hers a few IP's, I see you tagging the rest, COIBot picked up Wikipedia:WikiProject_Spam/LinkReports/askgeo.org--Hu12 (talk) 14:58, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for taking the time to revert all those - but please, do say something in the edit summary about it - "linkspam", or a link back to here - one at a time they appear to be perfectly reasonable and it's not until you realize that these links are proliferating like kudzu that you appreciate the problem. Thanks! JohnInDC (talk) 15:06, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'll do that.;)--Hu12 (talk) 15:47, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Its a scraper site of ripping content from bea.gov. --Hu12 (talk) 15:47, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've added a report and blacklisted the link. its just to widespread, obvious use of multiple sock/meat accounts and IP's galore... --Hu12 (talk) 16:16, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well done. Thanks for taking care of this. JohnInDC (talk) 16:23, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I started cleaning them up, but then had to leave the house. Thanks again!

Good catch! Is there any one over at commons that can have a closer look at commons:Special:Contributions/Usgeowiki and commons:Special:Contributions/Askgeowiki..?--Hu12 (talk) 16:43, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

dhaulashree.com

The Dhaulagiri spammer is back. I think that there is a case for blocking him. Viewfinder (talk) 16:54, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Agree,

Done. thanks--Hu12 (talk) 17:12, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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