Aris Thessaloniki F.C.

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BetacommandBot (talk) 19:54, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

In Turkey tour they played with Fener Bax? It should be Fenerbahce SK. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.171.98.69 (talk) 12:57, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

According to the official statistics by Superleague, the official organization for greek football, Aris F.C. is the second biggest club in Thessaloniki, the capital of Macedonia, and the fifth at the other parts of Macedonia and not first as indicated in the article. All information can be found at the online research results presentation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.203.142.127 (talk) 19:38, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

This research is totally unreliable. The sample is 1616 people. 110 people of the sample come from Xanthi (~7% of the sample) when Xanthi has 100.000 people (~1% of Greece's total population). 130 people of the sample were from Larissa (8% of the sample - ~2,5% of Greece's total population). 85 of the people asked are from Iraklion (~5% of the sample) when the total population of Iraklio is 300000 people (~2,7% of Greece total population). 120 people from Peloponnisos are asked (~7% of hte sample of 1616 people) while Peloponnisos has almost 1.2 million people (~11% of Greece's total population). 80 of the people that took part in this research come from Corfu (~5% of the sample) while Corfu has 110000 residents (~1% of Greece's total population).85.73.7.254 (talk) 18:59, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

what a mess

It doesn't deal at all with the two relegations and 80% of the text is about 1920s and 1930s. Also the notable players section is supposed to be about notable not all foreign players who played for the team --Ioannes Tzimiskes (talk) 16:32, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

I agree so i removed some of them.I can't understand why players like Decamps,Fomubond,Taglani and Martinez are consider as notable...Ήμαρτον.

NPOV dispute

This article has huge neutrality issues. It is written entirely as a fan article. Just a few examples:

-"The leading star of Thessaloniki and untamed in the rest of Greece, Aris shone in all athletic activities. In water sports, in basketball and in track and field Aris was synonymous to being first, to being the Champion. ": This is not only melodramatic, but also unrelated to the article, which is about the FOOTBALL club, as well as completely unsupported by the facts.

-"The local championships he won were countless": They can certainly be counted, how about some numbers?

-"Beginning in 1923, when he won his first title, until 1959, when local tournaments ceased, the club rarely finished second or third.": Absolutely not true. The article says they only won 3 "championships", with only 2 more participating teams. And who is "he"?

-" Aris was even demoted to the Second Division twice, due to bad management". That is certainly an opinion of the authors. The club was relegated because of bad performance and hooliganist action by their fans, which brought the club's punishment.

-Also, the two recent relegations are only mentioned in passing.

-"With regard to a period that gave birth to the big stars that shone in the stadiums of that era. The Vikelidis brothers, like the Andrianopoulos brothers in Olympiakos, are names often remembered. The patriarch of the family, Kostas, the unsurpassed in technique midfielder Nikoforos, the “Human Tornado” as Kleanthis used to be known, and leaving for last, but certainly not least, the “Macedonian Armored Vehicle”, the youngest of the family, Kitsos, also known as the “Terrorist” of opponent goalkeepers and by many other nicknames that were given to him by the press. Let us not forget Aggelakis, whose football shoe was carried around by his admirers, Kaltekis, Papas, the Koloniari brothers, Katrantzos, Danelian, Koublis and so many others, most of who sent their spirits to guard present day ARIS.": Simply not serious enough!

-"a success that was underlined by the titan efforts of Vikelidis, Tsonas, Magras, Abrachamian, Siotis, Nikolaidis, Kaftatzis, Kaftatzis II, Liakopoulos, Vasiliadis, Velliadis and Koloniaris. These semi-gods led the god of war to the Champion’s throne for the third time.": Same thing.

-"But there came a day when all these giants of football that made ARIS such a great team stopped playing.": Same thing. Most of these players are completely non-notable.

-"Local newspapers “MACEDONIA”, “THE LIGHT”, “PEOPLE’S VOICE” as well as the Athenian papers wrote triumphant headlines to mark the “yellow’s” major success": References???

-"In the first match Aris played against Panathinaikos, who was rescued from contrition by referee Zapardas, who force the “yellows” to an unjust draw (1-1)": Again, this is a fan comment.

-"The “yellows” fans also take pride in the fact that Aris was the main domestic club of Greece's Euro 2004 goal scoring hero Angelos Charisteas.": Charisteas was playing in Germany at the time, not in Aris.

These are only some of numerous similar problems with this article. It must be entirely rewritten to meet wikipedia standards or deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Allinthebrain (talk • contribs) 23:54, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

I agree. The article is completely unreliable, with no references, and has clearly been written by fans. It needs to be changed radically.

(IWMYS (talk) 03:46, 10 April 2009 (UTC))

I also agree. This has been written by fans. I did some cleaning up, but it is still far from reliable. (GreekTiger (talk) 19:44, 11 April 2009 (UTC))

Aris Second Division Championship in 1998

Aris has also won a Second division championship in 1998. Do not delete it from the honours section.

rivals of aris

the statment tha olympiakos, panthinaikos and aek are rivals of aris its not true, these are just difficult games with big teams. These big teams can't be the rival of all teams the only teams that can be called rivals of aris is PAOK and maybe Iraklis in fact at olympiakos article, at the part of rivalies there is no mension of aris, and if olympiakos is not rival of aris the panathinaikos and aek there are not either

stop putting olympiakos aek and panathinaikos as rivals of aris, THEY ARE NOT —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikipaok (talk • contribs) 20:42, 19 June 2009 (UTC)