Talk:The Birth of Venus

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the link to venus should go to the goddess but instead it goes to the planet.

Copy?

At least a significant part of the text on this page is identical to the text on this page:

http://www.topofart.com/artists/Alessandro_Filippepi_Botticelli/art_reproduction/158/The_Birth_of_Venus.php

should this be fixed on one or the other? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.29.153.44 (talk) 07:48, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Correct Word?

Is the correct word "anadyome" or "anadyomene" to describe "rising from the sea"? I think it's the latter, and so have corrected the article accordingly.--Chuckhoffmann 02:47, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

i don't know but I guess also the latter.213.119.207.54 12:49, 2 December 2006 (UTC)stefaan[reply]

It is the latter. "Anadyome" is the first person, as in "I am rising". "Anadyomene" is "in the act of rising". Stassa (talk) 14:08, 22 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Anadyomene is the correct word, but it should not be applied to this painting,as the painting does not represent Venus rising from the sea, but the goddess being blown to shore (Cyprus) by the winds. The classical tradition for representing the Anadyomene is to show the goddess waist deep in water, often wringing water from her hair (as in the Ludovisi throne). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jclong09 (talk • contribs) 01:50, 26 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think that this last comment is interpretating "Venus anadyomene" in much too narrow a fashion. If we are to go with this, then we must stop calling the painting "The Birth of Venus", because it doesn't show the precise moment of birth, but very shortly after, in the same way as a painting entitled "The Birth of the Virgin Mary" might show the baby about to be given her first bath.

The term "Venus anadyomene" pertains to this sort of scene, as against "Venus and Mars" or "Venus blindfolding Cupid" or "The Judgement of Paris", all popular Venus motifs. Amandajm (talk) 04:08, 26 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You're absolutely right; I was not advocating changing the name of the painting. There is, however, a visual tradition for the representation of the Anadyomene, which this painting does not fit. See, for example, Titian's Venus Anadyomene in Edinburgh.--Jclong09 (talk) 18:22, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Italian Name?

Should the original Italian name (La nascita di Venere) be added as a subtitle to the English one (The Birth of Venus)? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.25.142.66 (talk) 17:21, 11 April 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Monty Python info

I added the line about the movie sketch; it seemed silly to mention the movie info when it was the same as the TV info.

Or should it have been in the movie section?

CaliforniaDave 02:05, 7 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Simonetta's place of residence

The article claims that "she lived in Portovenere". Is that so? If I remember correctly, she was anecdotally linked to the place. She might have been born there - but she lived in and around Florence.

Everything about Simonetta Vespucci in this article is so tenuous that it amounts to no more than fantasy. Nothing is sourced. Vespucci lived in the Santa Maria Novella district of Florence; her family (and some poor relations) originated in Portovenere, but to say she lived there would be wrong. Given that there's no source for this statement, that's not surprising. I added some sources for the weak claim that she was the model, and also added a citation to noted historian Felipe Fernandez-Armesto making the opposite case. Nandesuka (talk) 00:17, 11 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]