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Rfc concerning use of galleries[edit]

There is currently an RfC about the use of galleries at the article Paul Signac. It is about whether we should be using legacy gallery formats because they "allows each work the dignity they demand...". -- CFCF 🍌 (email) 13:03, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

I would appreciate and welcome visual art editors comments there [1]...Modernist (talk) 13:05, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
Yes, more comments please - this is likely to turn into a precedent. I hope we are not facing a new infobox war! Johnbod (talk) 15:14, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Issues needing attention[edit]

I've got some open issues needing attention for anyone familiar with Renoir's early work over at Talk:Lise (Renoir)#Issues and errata. Thanks in advance. Viriditas (talk) 23:11, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

Help us add artworks to Commons or Wikidata[edit]

Lot's of Wikipedians go on vacation in August and find themselves behind a keyboard without their usual tools ready. If you are looking for something useful to do that doesn't require a lot of cross-referencing, try adding an existing image file from Commons to a Wikidata item for museum collections. For example, this list of paintings in the Philadelphia Museum of Art could use some illustrations from Commons. If you are interested in paintings, maybe you would like to join the w:Wikidata:WikiProject sum of all paintings. If you hate Wikidata, maybe you would be interested in just contributing images to Commons from museum websites, or even setting up a Wikipedia:WikiProject Visual arts/Sum of all paintings page that just lists museums and their collection trees (paintings by period or movement). Wikidatans will find and appreciate your work in either place, I assure you. Jane (talk) 09:04, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

Sad news - User:Paul Barlow (Paul B)[edit]

I've just seen that Paul has died. He was a professional art historian, specializing in the Pre-Raphaelites; among other things he published a book on John Everett Millais (Barlow, Paul Time Present and Time Past: The Art of John Everett Millais, Ashgate 2005). Most of his WP work was not on art, but he maintained the key Pre-Raphaelite articles, and contributed to many others. He will be sorely missed. Messages can be added to his talk page (better than here). He must have been relatively young too - BA 1983. Johnbod (talk) 00:41, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

American art articles[edit]

FYI, there is a notice at WT:USA about some recent changes to redirects and new articles to American art articles -- (talk) 04:49, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the note! To save people's time, I've copied the note there & my response Johnbod (talk) 12:27, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

(copied from US proj) There is someone removing redirects and pointing all the articles about Art in the United states to a bunch of circular lists that they have created.

The major articles Visual art of the United States, Music of the United States, Cuisine of the United States are being unlinked and added to the bottoms of these pages as misc "See also" articles.

Dunno if anyone cares, just pointing it out.--Savonneux (talk) 12:25, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Yes, this is a problem. I have restored some of the old links and redirects, but not tackled the period lists, which something needs to be done about - perhaps just deletion. WP:FORK applies. Wikiproject Visual art certainly care - that should have been notified, & I will copy all this there. Johnbod (talk) 12:22, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
Redirected the 3 period ones too Johnbod (talk) 11:56, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

Eyes needed...[edit]

China: Through the Looking Glass is a new article on an exhibition that is notable, but it is suffering from synthesis issues in the Orientalism section (which is a problem, because that's the crux of the whole installation). Particularly, there is mention of Edward Said's book and some material cited from it that is not actually referenced in any of the sources - Said is generally, but only in one source, and his book is not. Can someone take a look at it? I can't because I'm an involved editor on another of the article creator's articles. MSJapan (talk) 05:09, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

Question about how to write an article about an art group that changed its name several times.[edit]

Hi, I stumbled across the work of a member of the French art nouveau group Les Cinq and wrote a wiki entry for him (it's in the AFC process now) but I noticed that Les Cinq, the art group rather than the music group, didn't have a wiki article either. Writing it isn't the problem so much as the group went from being Les Cinq to Les Six to becoming the L'Art pour tous movement. What would be the best way to structure an article about the group? Any advice gratefully received. Red Fiona (talk) 18:22, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

Given the potential for confusion, I'd be tempted to use the unique "L'Art pour tous", but of course explaining the others. Johnbod (talk) 18:58, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the quick reply. I think you're right, that is the right way forward. Thanks again Red Fiona (talk) 16:54, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Fair use[edit]

I noticed that the Harry Sternberg article has no image of his work. I tried to find an image with a commons license that could be uploaded to Wikimedia Commons, but could find nothing that meets their licensing requirements. Would adding a fair use image be possible under the circumstances? Kwork2 (talk) 14:13, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

Since he's not a living person, fair use images of him personally are presumably not replaceable with free ones, meaning a fair use image is likely reasonable. There's still the burden of showing that the image adds significantly to the article, and that'd depend on the context of any particular image. {{Nihiltres |talk |edits}} 15:30, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
I tend to think that having a minimum of one image of any artist's work would significantly improve the article. Is that an incorrect assumption? I was thinking of this [2] image which is a 1935 lithograph from the Library of Congress site, and which from the appearance and date might have been done for the Federal Art Project. Kwork2 (talk) 15:47, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
The specific criterion to satisfy is "contextual significance"; see Wikipedia:Non-free content § Meeting the contextual significance criterion. "Improves the article" isn't enough, as I read it. Including specific commentary on how the example is typical of Sternberg's work would probably be enough, though. {{Nihiltres |talk |edits}} 17:44, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
Yes, essentially that's it. Johnbod (talk) 18:16, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

Student project[edit]

Please all keep an eye on the articles at Wikipedia:Wiki Ed/Kansas City Art Institute/Western Art I (Fall 2015) over the next months. Per the timetable it seems they aren't due to start posting to mainspace until November. Johnbod (talk) 17:15, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

Cor Melchers[edit]

I created the page Cor Melchers, however I don't know (as I'm not into art..) if this painter is notable enough to have his own wiki page. Sander.v.Ginkel (Talk) 22:56, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

probably not, frankly. Johnbod (talk) 03:58, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

You're invited! Women in Red World Virtual Edit-a-thon on Women in Architecture[edit]

You are invited!World Virtual Edit-a-thon on Women in Architecture sponsored by the Solomon R. Guggenheim MuseumCome and join us remotely!
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The Virtual Edit-a-thon, hosted by Women in Red in parallel with a series of "physical" Guggenheim edit-a-thons, will allow all those keen to improve Wikipedia's coverage of Women in Architecture to participate. As it stretches over a week and a half, inexperienced participants will be able to draw on the assistance of more experienced editors while creating, translating or improving articles on women who are (or have been) prominent in architecture. All levels of Wikipedia editing experience are welcome. RSVP and find more details →here←--Ipigott (talk) 10:42, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

A student writes[edit]

Hi, I was hoping to use these sources in my upcoming editing could I have some feed back on them thank you! [1]


[3] Contreraslizbeth (talk) 04:50, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

I'm not sure any really take the article beyond what it already has, & apart from EB they are not really WP:RS. Don't you have access to the Grove Encyclopedia? I'm sure that would be better. Any textbook on Greek sculpture would be good for that, and Hartt etc for the Renaissance. Johnbod (talk) 05:00, 29 September 2015 (UTC)