Talk:Yahya Khan

The main article has a clear pro bangladeshi bias especially evident in the ridiculous figure of 3 million civilians having been allegadly murdered by the west pakistani army and 400,000 raped. This figure is from the realms of obscene fantasy and suprise suprise it doesnt carry any sources or posting of evidence. Sharmila Bose the Indian BC correspondant put the death figure at 300,000 and claimed the observed figure of 300,000 was mistranslated in bengali into 3 million (Times Magazine January 1972). This figure also included the ethnic cleansing and murder of loyal east pakistanis and ethnic biharis by the mukhti bahini. These facts should be included to present a more balanced account in this pivotal event in the protaganist Yahya Khans life.

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THE PHOTO FOR AYUB KHAN AND YAHA KHAN IS THE SAME. SEE THAT ARTICLE. I DONT KNOW WHICH ONE IS CORRECT. PLEASE CHANGE!!! --203.197.115.38 05:32, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The first paragraph in "Character as an Officer" is remarkably POV. I'm not knowledgeable on the subject, but someone should fix it or it should be deleted. Impaciente 06:08, 15 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

You mean this: "Yahya was from a reasonably well to do family, had a Grammar school education and was directly commissioned as an officer. He was respected in the officer corps for professional competence." ? I don't see any POV it blandly states where he studied and commissioned and the respect he gaine (obviously without which he wouldn't have risen to the topmost post). Idleguy 06:24, 15 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies, I meant the second paragraph under the same heading. The first seems fine by all means.

Yahya was a hard drinking soldier approaching the scale of Mustafa Kemal of Turkey and had a reputation of not liking teetotallers. Yahya liked courtesans but his passion had more to do with listening to them sing or watching them dance (His affair with Pakistan's most legendary singer Noor Jehan was quite scandalous at its time). Thus he did not have anything of Ataturk’s practical womanising traits. Historically speaking many great military commanders like Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, Eftikhar Khan and General Grant were accused of debauchery and womanising. These personal habits still did not reduce their personal efficiency and all of them are remembered in military history as great military commanders.

I don't think this is as encylopedic as it could be. Again, I don't know much about the subject, but someone that does should rephrase that section. Impaciente 01:17, 17 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Tx 4 the tipoff. It sounded like it had been cut and paste and lo and behold it was. Infact the entire article is a cut and paste job from [1]. The final para is from TIME magazine [2]. Even the image copyrights (except one) are listed as fairuse without mentioning why or how. It's pretty alarming that I find these blatant copyvios across many Pakistani articles and images. I'm going to list this article for deletion and setup a subpage with only the lines that have not been taken from the sites. Unfortunately it seems only the intro para is original. A shame that many have to resort to these paste jobs, especially on a fairly well known figure of the past. Idleguy 02:10, 17 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Yahya was a power hungry mongrel

During the 1971 war, Kamrul Hasan, a Bengali painter, designed a poster for campaign for Liberation which depicted his face as caricature.

I do understand your feeling Mr. Ashraf! So I would like to call upon all sensible Pakistanis to stop highlighting Yahya Khan for the sake of humanitarinism and for lasting Bangladesh Pakistan friendship. As no present day sensible German stands beside Hitler, no present day educated Pakistani should also not stand beside yahya's legacy and rather denounce him strongly.Murad67 05:41, 9 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

He was from Peshawar

He was born and raised in Peshawar. I don't know where the Chakwal thing came from. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.65.163.248 (talk) 15:26, 1 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

as britannica says http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-9077718/Agha-Mohammad-Yahya-Khan —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.65.163.248 (talk) 15:35, 1 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ha ha, the Bangladesh-Indo-Pak war technically had Persians at the forefront ranks of opposite lines. Yahya Khan on the Pakistani side and Sam Manekshaw on the Indian side. Only difference was one was a head of state and the other was a Chief of the Army Staff who planned ground operations. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.255.202.121 (talk) 09:08, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That's funny lol. Persian against Persian. One a descendant of the empire of Nadir Shah and the other a descendant of the empire of the Sassanids. Actually, even more ironic, Manekshaw and Khan were army buddies during Word War II. There's a story that Manekshaw actually related about Yahya from the days right before or after partition. Manekshaw had a brand new bike and Yahya Khan asked him for the motor bike as he was leaving for the new state of Pakistan and felt he wouldn't be able to afford anything fancy. Yahya Khan got it from Manekshaw promising he would pay him so many rupees or pounds for it. Manekshaw said he never got the money but symbolically took East Pakistan as payment 20 some years later! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.255.203.224 (talk) 04:05, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This article is listed under Pashtun people, but Yahya Khan was no Pashtun - he was a Hindko speaking "Pishori". Being of Qazalbash descent or not is of secondary importance here - many of Pishoris can actually claim such descent, and are usually genuine, but most use it as a fashionable label as they are downright ashamed of their actual Indian aboriginal heritage. But the Pashtun label is the most misused of all in this regard. Pashtuns are lowlifes generally speaking, but how the ethnic Indians of Pakistan (in this case the Punjabis, Seraikis and Pishoris) rush to lay claim to the Pashtun "mystique". Ughh! Because whatever, they still feel that these lowlifes whom they hate are better than them. This is a classic case of social psychopathology for those who have a realistic and sensible outlook on life - to study. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.36.4.246 (talk) 16:59, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Copyvio

Idleguy pointed this out a few years ago and fixed it, but it's come back -- huge chunks of this article are again lifted from this site. I don't have time to fix it immediately but someone should look at it. Shayborg (talk) 20:05, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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I don't have any idea what this means: "However dissolution of one unit did not lead to the positive results that it might have led to in case "One Unit" was dissolved earlier." Is this something like, "Dissolving the unit later was not so beneficial as dissolving it earlier might have been"? Hughdbrown (talk) 23:40, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How clever, dear Englishman - of course it means that! Why do you bother to ask, instead of getting on with the editing straightforwardly and without fuss? It is your language after all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.36.4.246 (talk) 16:47, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]