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Sailor Jupiter or Sailor Venus

I've been told that Makoto was a girly-girl in the manga, where as Minako was the tomboy.

Appearance and behaviour

Makoto is tomboy in appearance: she is very tall, have a lot of strength and can be very rude. But her hobbies are those of a housewife. Minako has a very feminine appearance, but her hobbies and her behaviour are those of a boy. I think you are right and she is the real tomboy. (please note that I don't believe that hobbies, or even the behaviour, are either male or female, I tell how it is shown in the manga). --83.57.207.57 (talk) 09:24, 25 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dragonball

I am not agree that all those girls are tomboys only because they fight. The only real tomboy would be Videl, and maybe "evil" Lunch.

  • Chichi: when she is young, her only aspiration is to marry with Goku. After, she is a protective mother.
  • A18: she fights because she is built to do so, but she likes fashion above all (the androids lose a lot of time just because she wanted to "buy" new clothes).
  • Zangya: do we know enough of her?
  • Seripa: could be, but Seripa is the only female saiyan model we have so we must think that she follow the tradtional female role in the saiyan race.
  • Pan: she is too young to have gender differences (in the GT, she could be identified as tomboy).

--83.57.207.57 (talk) 09:24, 25 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Naruto

Sakura, Ino, and Temari aren't tomboys.They all wear feminine clothing. Sakura and Ino are both highly concerned with their appearance and boys; stereotypical 'girlish' behaviour. Temari is also quite feminine.
The only thing that could be considered boyish about them is the fact that they're ninja, and Sakura has been shown to be rather aggressive at moments (However, even then Sakura usually gets aggressive over pretty 'girlish' things, like being told she's ugly and being interrupted while flirting with the object of her affections).
I'm removing them from the list again, and if someone doesn't agree, please explain why you think they're tomboys (Specifically you, Georgiacatcrimson, since you keep reverting my edits without an explanation). JadziaLover (talk) 22:24, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

sorry,but those naruto characters aren't in list of notable tomboys in fiction .but they are in the arkticle otenba .and otenba actually means a girl that could be less or more mannish than a tomboy .sakura ,temari and ino are less mannish than an "american tomboy".that's why the person who had added them only adds them in otenba and not in list of notable tomboys in fiction .but somebody (everybody,actually) had miistaked otenba as tomboy,and put them in the list
The same goes for Lyra Silvertongue, elsewhere the character is described as especially not-tomboyish (like "finally a real girl in fantasy!"), she too only wears female clothing; but she is the leader of a gang of children (mostly boys), hmm.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.179.54.231 (talk) 22:41, 17 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Tayuya is a tomboy because she insults and speaks like a boy

Trim the Anime/Manga section

Yanno, the above comments only point up the fact that the section of all those should be replaced with a cross-reference to Otenba, because the Japanese concept of a tomboy is different enough from the Western one that it should be discussed separately. —Quasirandom (talk) 20:18, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

yeah otenba is really different from tomboy because of the concept(the guy that added naruto characters to otenba might understand the difference--Revim (talk) 08:46, 7 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Trimming not necessary
The Otenba article dosen't have squat on it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Georgiacatcrimson (talk • contribs) 17:10, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
(Note: refactored the above to not start a new section). That just means Otenba needs to be expanded (with sources). —Quasirandom (talk) 22:18, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It's going to be deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Georgiacatcrimson (talk • contribs) 11:24, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Will you stop vandalizing the list by removing legitimate cleanup tags? --Farix (Talk) 11:48, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Now that wasn't very nice of you. --Farix (Talk) 02:05, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Jean Louise "Scout" Finch

Shouldn't Scout from Harper Lee's To Kill a Mockingbird be included in this list? She didn't wear dresses or traditionally female clothing and she often beat up boys at her school. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.45.206.128 (talk) 02:00, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Reverts

I reverted to the last decent version. There has been alot of screwing around with the article that isnt helpful. Work from here with regards to finding citations. Some of which were deleted by vandalism some time ago. There is no need to remove content minutes after it has been tagged. As this can be considered a navigational list, entries with articles that cover the topic do not really need sourcing. --neonwhite user page talk 14:32, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Reintroducing unsourced original-research material that was previously deleted under general concensus strikes me as being a retrograde step. I strongly disagree with the statement that "entries with articles that cover the topic do not really need sourcing". My view is that entries without verifiable references explicitly describing the characters as "tomboys" can only be described as original research, and thus do not belong here. --DAJF (talk) 22:57, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note also that your (User:Neon white) reverts actually removed valid references, and also undid the work of other editors to put entries in alphabetical order. --DAJF (talk) 23:07, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Citated entires have been removed with no valid reason. Navigational lists don't need complete sourcing if the article the entry links to clearly defines it then that is usually ok. Obviously they need to be checked but i've added the ones i've found so far. Many may turn out to be incorrect but the wholesale removal of content without any attempt to find sources or check them is not helpful and damages the article. Common sense is applicable here. If characters fit the stated criteria then they should be acceptable. Fact tags are added to give editors chance to provide sources, they arent there to indicate immediate deletion. There is no consensus to remove anything here. The article currectly is an absolute mess and was far more useful previously. I remind editors to avoid Wikipedia:Wikilawyering and remember that writing a good article is the goal here. --neonwhite user page talk 17:50, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Merge this article into Tomboy

To discuss whether you support or oppose a merger of this article into Tomboy please discuss it on that articles talk page Talk:Tomboy. --Magnetawan (talk) 16:22, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Personally, I'd put it up for deletion. The number of tomboys (and does anyone know the equivalent word for a male who acts like a girl?) in fiction must run to the millions. The tomboy has been a standard character in fiction for a couple thousand years at least. Fifty years ago that paragon of maleness (Boy's Life) was rife with tomboys in its fiction and Men's Life always had exuberant women running around with machine guns and whips.71.197.83.129 (talk) 03:07, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This should be discussed on the Tomboy talk page. This article has been listed for deletion 3 times (by me most recently), and the consensus is very much against deletion. -- Mark Chovain 06:42, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Winona Ryders character in Roxy Carmichael

Does anyone remember that movie? I distinctly remember her character being a tomboy to the max —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.134.73.128 (talk) 07:38, 13 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Toph

We should add Toph, she is also a tomboy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.12.156.120 (talk) 01:59, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

you're right,we should add toph but Mr.Huggles keeps reverting my edits.--Revim (talk) 09:36, 7 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
But you will need to search for reliable sources,too--Pinballistics (talk) 10:01, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Questionable tomboys

oh, come on,wikipedia has aneutral point of view, and also, those people who refers them as tomboys are also humans.--Pinballism (talk) 15:18, 29 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Princess Zelda

I added Princess Zelda. Not sure if other wikia sites are 'legit' references, but it is true. 24.164.157.113 (talk) 06:35, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Princess Daisy

We should all know that Princess Daisy has been potrayed as a tomboy, so she should be added to the list. You should search "Princess Daisy" on the Mario Wiki if you don't beileve me. SuperGirl64　01:57, 24 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you have non-trivial reference sources supporting that, please go ahead and add it to the list. --DAJF (talk) 02:04, 24 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You can check on the Super Mario Wiki. I'm annoyed that people don't see the tomboy in her. I mean, c'mon, Daisy DOES NOT go around being all feminine like Peach. SuperGirl64

Other Wikis are not reliable sources so the Mario Wiki can't be used to source whether or not she's a tomboy. either way (talk) 22:09, 24 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Makoto Kikuchi

I don't have any refrences to point to, but Makoto Kikuchi from The Idolmaster is an undoubtable tomboy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.34.66.20 (talk) 00:30, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lina Inverse.

Tomboyism is the best kind of femaninity.

  • Agressive & destructive behavior.
  • When she acts femenine, she creeps people out.
  • The "femeninity" article says "submisive, gentle, patient, & kind." Lina is none of those.
  • Many men are terrified of her reputation.
  • Not really emotional & romantic, she even explained in Slayers: Knight of the Aqualord how she doesn't see her & Gourry having any other kind of relationship.
  • While she does get flustered by flirtation, seconds latter she reacts negatively by punching the closest guy.
  • Her bodyguard Gourry isn't nessesary. He's a friendly tag-along. She has her own sword.
  • She's the one who ends up saving someone in the end but never needs to be saved herself.
  • She wears pants.
  • Femanine women like Naaga piss her off.
  • While Amelia loves to get involed in other people's melodrama, it sickens Lina.
  • Sometimes she makes her male friends wear women's clothing.
  • She is the leader who makes the decisions, period. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.160.77.255 (talk) 11:49, 1 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Megaman ZX

Aile and Ashe are tomboys because it says so in the japanese bio.--190.82.175.10 (talk) 13:01, 26 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bakugan Battle Brawlers

Runo is a tomboy 'cause she plays with boys.--190.82.175.10 (talk) 13:01, 26 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Powerpuff Girls

Buttercup is a tomboy 'cause she likes to fight, getting dirty, rude games and hates girly stuff like ponies.--190.82.162.89 (talk) 15:52, 30 November 2009 (UTC) Even in her page in Wikipedia and the Powerpuff Girls wiki says she's a tomboy.--190.82.162.89 (talk) 20:35, 30 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Powerpuff Girls Z

Kaoru is more tomboy 'cause she likes to wear clothes that make her look like a boy, ride skateboard, is good in sports and hates dresses and skirts. Kaoru also uses "Ore" which is a male first-person pronoun.--190.82.162.89 (talk) 15:52, 30 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Pokémon

Misty is a tomboy, her japanese leader title tomboy mermaid and in the japanese version of the anime in episode 18 she calls her self like that, though she likes romantic stuff. Anabel is kinda a tomboy, she uses "Boku" to refer herself, "Boku" is a first-person pronoun just for males and she wears boy clothes. Zoey is kinda a tomboy 'cause she wears suits instead of dresses in the contests. Angie is a tomboy 'cause she uses the first-person pronoun "Oira" which is for males, she speaks like a boy ending her sentences with "Ze" "Zo" and "Na" in the japanese version. Melody is a tomboy too by her personality and in Pokeani in her personality and characteristics says tomboy in japanese.--190.82.175.10 (talk) 13:01, 26 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Digimon

Rika is quite of a tomboy 'cause she wears very boyish clothes and hates to wear dresses for her mother--190.82.162.89 (talk) 15:52, 30 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Removals

I've had to remove:

I have no problem in principle with these characters, but for this article we need to stick to reliable sources. I've looked for acceptable sources for all of them and wasn't able to find one, (where I did I added it to those that remain), but hopefully someone else can do better and find reliable sources so we can add them back. - Bilby (talk) 00:51, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ayu Tsukimiya...

I figured that she's not a tomboy, but she uses boku. —Preceding unsigned comment added by APR76 (talk • contribs) 06:24, 23 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Too much anime

How about some tomboys that aren't from some anime? Kara Thrace anyone? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.180.117.213 (talk) 07:37, 25 March 2010 (UTC)[reply] 

  Very good idea! What about the classic Hollywood tomboys of the 70s like Jodie Foster, Kristy McNichol or Tatum O´Neal. The aspect of similarities between their parts and their real life ist even more interesting
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