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Storm redirect

Thanks for the redirect Shelleyk3425 (talk) 03:04, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

No problem; Storm (1987 film) seemed more appropriate, as we usually put the adjective before the noun. (See The Thomas Crown Affair, for example.)  Frank  |  talk  03:09, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Breath

I wouldn't waste any more of it. That user seems to fail the basic principle of competence is required. –xeno^talk 14:27, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

I've almost reached the same conclusion. Oh well.  Frank  |  talk  14:30, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Recent deletion

Hi Frank, thanks for deleting that, there is also another copy, here please have a look at the note I left at AN here . Off2riorob (talk) 14:52, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Responded at AN.  Frank  |  talk  14:58, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Can you tell me why it was removed to my user page, and then someone still delete it before I can do anything ? I haven't even got a chance to say hold it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ronald2010 (talk • contribs) 14:35, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

I understand your reason for deleting Silviu Ionescu was because of BLP. Can you explain to me how is the BLP poicy apply on this [[1]] ? 121.7.53.23 (talk) 09:01, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

I am not sure I understand the question. WP:BLP establishes how we treat the biographical articles of living people; the idea is that Wikipedia is not here to defame anyone. If they are notable for something then we can include them here. If you can establish that Ionescu is actually notable, and write a balanced article about him, then there's no reason the article can't exist. But the one that had been previously written was not balanced, and I'm not sure he's notable to start with.  Frank  |  talk  11:51, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Michael Fay is a living person. He was sentenced to caning for the crime he committed in Singapore. Is he notable ? Well, he is definitely not a hero, nor a millionaire. He is just a foreigner committed a crime in Singapore and was punished. The news then had created a big wave in Singapore and in USA. He is therefore notable in that sense. From this point of view, Silviu Ionescu is similar. He is a foreigner, a Romanian, committed (more) crime (than Michael Fay) in Singapore. It is found in an open Coroner's Inquiry that he is responsible for the accidents. Lots of news report and online discussion about him in Singapore and Romania.

Mind you, this is not DEFRAME nor ATTACK (which I really disagree with yours and the others' earlier comments that my deleted write up on Silviu Ionescu was to deframe him). I am deframing him if the Court has not ruled. That means, I do not solid evidence to say he committed the crimes, and he can sue me. But, this case, the Court has ruled. It is a PROVEN CASE now. Not an opinion, not a speculation. If you noted, I wrote the article for Wikipedia AFTER the Court has given the verdict (although I started developing the draft copy in my user space nearing the date of Court's verdict). This is the care that I taken to ensure that the facts are written, (and to reply to the other person who said my article was a copy of the news, yes it is because it is based on the same facts as reported, so that is why, and I quoted the sources too) some kind of fair treatment for him. I'll let you know that there are many members of the Facebook group will support me is saying this and I am inviting them to watch this discussion now.

Did the current Wikipedia write up on Michael Fay show his other good ? or just mainly talk about what he did in Singapore ? Nope. Michael Fay maybe a celebrity by now, and maybe a founder of a very successful IT company now, or a CEO or a Fortune 500 company now. But the Wikipedia article currently shows his crime committed in Singapore. That is going to be the same for Silviu Ionescu. He maybe a member of the secret police in his country, killing more people than we can ever imagine. But his two reckless accident in Singapore kill one, injured two. That is enough to make him 'infamous'.

I hope I have elaborated enough to justify the article, by citing a current article of Micheal Fay, which is also one single incident. So my question to you is, how is the BLP policy applied here ? Thank you.

121.7.53.23 (talk) 02:35, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

I support you, Ronald (or are you Jackie ?). 203.78.9.150 (talk) 05:00, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Thank you ! And Daniel (116.14.58.58 8 Apr 3:52 UTC) also. Yes, Ronald2010 is also Jackie. 121.7.15.234 (talk) 08:10, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

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Hi Frank, please do reply on the above mentioned with full answer. Thanks & best regards, from Daniel on 08-April-2010 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.14.58.58 (talk) 03:52, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

CSD

thanks for the message but it looks like someone else decided not to wait. NtheP (talk) 17:01, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

(Re: Crouch-DeVries) You're right, but I disagree with that deletion and said so.  Frank  |  talk  17:05, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Crouch-DeVries

If you had read the original article completely, you might have noticed that it was really nothing more than a wedding announcement. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 17:20, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

I certainly read it all; perhaps "noticed it was really nothing more than" is an interpretation and not an absolute. Nevertheless, it's not a completely unreasonable interpretation...I just didn't think it falls so obviously under A7. Still, as I indicated on the deleting admin's talk page, I went ahead and deleted Mrs. Janack's Class and Mrs. Janack's 4th Grade moments later, so...maybe I shoulda just kept my fingers quiet after all.  Frank  |  talk  17:38, 6 April 2010 (UTC)