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≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 23:32, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

User name

If you want, you can probably ask to take over Steinberger as a user name - there was only one edit[1] and that was two years ago, to a talk page. See WP:CHU/U 199.125.109.103 (talk) 20:44, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ow, tanks. I have thought about it, but knowing how to do. Ssteinberger (talk) 21:08, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

AfD nomination of Drug policy

I thought you might be interested in this as you are another editor of this page:

An article that you have been involved in editing, Drug policy, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Drug policy. Thank you. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? NJGW (talk) 20:58, 4 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Just let Dala finish the articles he's making, and when he hasn't edited them for some time fix it up to wiki standards. I've seen this sort of thing before, and at that time I tried calm rational discussion on the talk page. That didn't work (they never replied), so I waited until the article went dormant and fixed everything without a fight. This is already heated, so just wait until he's butting heads with someone else and forgets about this foxhole he's digging. Just work on articles he use to edit, where you can work with the other editors towards a reasonable consensus. NJGW (talk) 21:34, 5 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I know this guy from Swedish Wikipedia and there he annoys me so much that I'm tired up of writing articles on drug related matters. It has happen more then ones when I try to write something balanced, that he disorts its after being notified by his watchlist. It gets tiresome. I hope he gets banned for pov-pushing or whatever... Steinberger (talk) 23:44, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You might try Wikipedia:Requests for comment/User conduct (just check out Wikipedia:RFC/How to present a case to see the best way to go about it). If you need some back up, either myself or some other editors from the articles in question could comment. Getting him banned is probably pretty unlikely, but if enough editors are watching him he may be forced to tone it down, and hopefully learn how to behave. Let me know if you have any questions. NJGW (talk) 00:08, 9 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Be sure you are not edit warring on Drug policy. Your last edit looks like just that. If there are mistakes in the text you removed, correct them instead of erasing the paragraph. Otherwise, because of the editing history of this article, you should use the talk page to discuss what you think needs to be removed. NJGW (talk) 20:14, 10 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'll be more careful. It was not my intention to engage myself in edit warring. As the last section of the ting I wrote has most information presented in his edit, I thought that additional mentioning of high public acceptance would balance out the irrelevant, unsourced (but as far as I know true) statement of "just" 10% in favor of cannabis legalization. I thought this was self-evident. Steinberger (talk) 20:44, 10 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free to make good corrections, add better sources, and in general make the section correct. However, if you are removing sections you need to explain why you are doing so. The first sentence in the section right now, "Sweden has a zero-tolerance policy..." is a good beginning of a summery. I don't know enough about the subject to say too much more, but here's a good layout for each of the sections: [2]. If Australia didn't copyright its government publications I would copy and paste that into the article. NJGW (talk) 20:58, 10 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Question about french fries in Sweden

Hi, somebody at the French fry article had a question about a way it says some Swedes eat fries: Talk:French_fries#Sweden_-_two_things. I thought maybe you could answer whether people actually eat fries with ice cream on a regular basis there, or if it might be a joke someone wrote. Thanks, NJGW (talk) 00:29, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Third opinion dispute resolution requested

An editor has requested a Third opinion intervention at Drug policy of Sweden. You have been named as a party to the dispute. Please give me a brief description the pertinent issues and realted diffs. Thanks! --Kevin Murray (talk) 11:11, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

English

Hi Steinberger, please be sure you're messages are in English. This policy is so no one thinks there is something being hidden in a foreign language, and to make sure no one is breaking any policies (not that I think those issues applies to you, but it's still important to follow the policies). NJGW (talk) 02:49, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Insite

Just wanted to say thanks for tirelessly trying to keep the POV edits by Dala11a out of the article for Insite. That article was a pet project of mine for a while, so it's good to see that some people are determined to improve it, not just push their point of view. And if you ever want to try to make a case against Dala11a, let me know. - Gump Stump (talk) 04:41, 11 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Zero tolerance

Your last deleting in of the prevalence for "problem drug users" is very close to pure vandalism, your reason was that the number was not in the source. But the principle in Wikipedia is that the number, in this case 281, is a traceable number. The number is a result of 26000, as stated in the source, divided by the population in Sweden, very basic math. If that is not allowed is the result bad for Wikipedia. For ex if one source use gasoline price in dollar per gallon and another in Euro per liter, how do you compare them if it is not allowed to use basic math to recalculate?Dala11a (talk) 10:06, 27 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You are wrong. There is no principle on Wikipedia where you can use "traceable number[s]". I can give you a couple of reasons for this. EMCDDA calculates that Sweden has 2.9 per 1000 inhabitants, so either your or EMCDDA basic math is flawed. Even if both of your calculations are flawed (or right), at least EMCDDA's can't be considered to be original research. [3] Second, for example the Nehterlands have 2.1-3.2 (depending on method, but all seems to derive from a total of 34000) per 1000, but in the 16-64 age span. [4] Looking through some other countries, most have that age span or a similar (15-65, 15-44, ect) If you what to compare, all calculations have to be the same, or at least such things as witch age groups that are included have to be disclosed. It's like calculating your gasoline example, not only without giving a date but also by picking a the price from a random gas station in the US and a random in some undisclosed Euro-country and only believing that both prices are average and then believing that the calculated number represents some greater truth about gas prices on the Transatlantic axle. So back to the zero tolerance article. What is relevant with only the Swedish number in the first place? Steinberger (talk) 13:48, 27 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

War on Drugs is Working

Hi Steinberger,

I have been expanding the Arguments in Favor of the War on Drugs section. I saw you added the caveat that statistics can be deceptive. I don't think your edit is in an appropriate place, although I agree with its general point. For the record, I think the War on Drugs is about the worst idea possible, but this section should present the best arguments in its favor and allow the data to speak for itself. I am going to remove your edit for now, since it seems out of place with the tone and NPOV of the article, but feel free to contact me if you want to discuss it.

note: the IP address I am using is public —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.40.50.1 (talk) 01:48, 16 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Reversion without reason, without discussion.

In the article about Harry J. Anslinger you recently reverted my removal of a statement that had an obviously unsatisfactory source. Do not do that again, use the discussion page. 80.202.31.30 (talk) 17:10, 11 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I did not notice that you had risen the question on the discussion page. As you did not give reference to your post in the edit summary, or gave any other motivation, I mistook you for a vandal who deleted source material. Sorry once again. Steinberger (talk) 19:36, 11 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Another revertion without reason and discussion

Here [5] you claim you dont know what WP:NOR and WP:OR means and then give me a link "proving" your point. The other article you are pointing to needs a lot of work but it is another issue. I revert. If you have any reasoning please go to the appropriate page and present your argument. All the best --Rm125 (talk) 19:16, 6 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The link I provided in that diff was to a section within that very same article. Everything Tiamut wrote, you reverted away, and I back, is backed up by sources elsewhere the article (needless to say, nothing in the lead have sources at the moment). It is not original research. Steinberger (talk) 19:41, 6 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Revertion without reason to untruthfull substance and unscientific language and stance.

You insist on including unverifiable and untruthfull claims about penal codes in sweden. You are engaging in more than disruptive editing. It is against Wikipedia policy but more important your edits are suberversive and the negative misinformation you perjure yourself are treachery. This is your final warning to stop this nonsence. To be perfectly clear - what you are doing is considered more harmful by the proper authority than for instance someone doping off with a joint once in a while. Do you need us to come to your house to explain this or are you done?

CS 02:16, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Oh, a threat! And because I am so very afraid of morons, I must stop obscuring the truth so that I don't get unwelcome guests. Steinberger (talk) 03:36, 3 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies

Just wanted to drop you a note apologizing for my completely inadvertent deletion of your vote at the Cook AfD, as I was deleting the comments of a banned user. Slim happily noticed it, and reverted. Again, apologies.--Epeefleche (talk) 02:03, 4 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Aftonbladet

I was wondering if you could say whether or not you're an employee of Aftonbladet or have any sort of direct connection to the affair discussed in the Aftonbladet-Israel controversy article. The only reason I'm asking is that you seem to be straining to defend Aftonbladet's reputation vis-a-vis other Swedish newspapers. I don't mean to imply anything else and I hope you won't take offense at my question. Of course you have no obligation whatsoever to answer it, but I would appreciate it very much if you did. Respectfully, Jalapenos do exist (talk) 01:48, 19 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I take more offense from the accusation that I should have defended Aftonbladet vis-a-vis other Swedish newspapers, to be true. I don't feel I have. But to be clear: I am in no way affiliated with Aftonbladet nor active in any other organization, political or otherwise, that have an opinion in the Israel-Palestine question. Steinberger (talk) 02:03, 19 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OK, thanks. I didn't mean to offend you. Jalapenos do exist (talk) 03:02, 19 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Harm Min

Hi Steinberger,

Any edits you would like to make on Harm reduction, Safe injection site or Needle-exchange programme would be greatly welcomed. I've been stuck in a bit of an edit war with Minphie who wrote the section you tagged as being essay-like. Some more perspectives would help to move the debate on a little and hopefully weed out what I consider to be poor referencing and weak criticisms of harm minimisation approaches. --rakkar (talk) 15:59, 1 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]