User talk:Jayjg/Archive 38

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Requesting the source of the old Dinky Bomb page

I noticed today that the Dinky Bomb article has been deleted. As one of the former administrators of the game, I was hoping you could give me the source code for that article so that I can preserve it somewhere on my own website. I often talk to old players of the game, and when they ask me what happened to it, I used to direct them to the Wikipedia article. Since I can't do that any more, I'd at least like to save the information it contained.

For what it's worth, I think the decision to delete it was a bit rash. It was, at one time, a pay-to-play game, had over 50,000 user accounts, and was promoted by "reputable sources" such as the Penny Arcade blog. I thought that met the Wikipedia guidelines for relevance, but I am no expert. Either way, I would really appreciate having this information so that I can preserve it elsewhere.

Can you please e-mail it to me at sgware@gmail.com? I tried to find it myself, but short of making small edits to a few articles, I am not familiar with the inner working of Wikipedia. Thanks!

Update: Got your email. Thanks for your help!—Preceding unsigned comment added by Sgware (talk • contribs) 17:51, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

My pleasure. Jayjg ^(talk) 19:37, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Help on Rabbi Elazar Shach page

I see that recently you've been working out some issues on the "Rabbi Elazar Shach's critique" section on the "Chabad-Lubavitch related controversies" page. I see you've been erasing a lot of the POV and OR there. Can you check out the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elazar_Shach page, specifically Political Life/Opposition to the Lubavitcher Rebbe, and fix it up a bit there also? [Check out the "Footnotes" section on the talk page there, where we've been arguing back and forth with a lot of the same issues]Yonoson3 (talk) 20:06, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Unfortunately, there is a small but determined group of followers of Schneerson who make very difficult any attempts at bringing such articles into compliance with policy. A recent RFAR case against them was eventually dismissed, mostly, I think, because the person bringing the case and those opposing him wrote far too much for the arbitrators to properly read and understand. We may, unfortunately, get to that point again, though I hope instead the followers of Schneerson will value fidelity to Wikipedia's policies over their personal religious beliefs. It is difficult, however, to place too much reliance on this, when one cannot, for example even convince some of them (long time editors, I might add), that on Wikipedia one writes "God", not "G-d". Jayjg ^(talk) 20:21, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

FYI

Since you expressed your opinion about this subject, please see Wikipedia_talk:Naming_conventions_(Hebrew)#Rabbi. Thank you. Debresser (talk) 15:21, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. Jayjg ^(talk) 03:12, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Another synagogue article from rural upstate NY

It's not in the Catskills (indeed, it's on the other side of the Hudson, actually in the Housatonic watershed and almost in Connecticut) but you might want to look at Beth David Synagogue (Amenia, New York). Mitchazenia started it a while back and I recently updated it, adding a photo and some more sources.

Interestingly, it's the only synagogue on the Register in New York east of the Hudson north of New York City. Unfortunately the expansion was not enough to make that a potential DYK fact. Daniel Case (talk) 08:01, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Lovely article! I particularly admire your discussion of the architectural features, something I'm weak at. Thank you for showing it to me. Jayjg ^(talk) 03:01, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

I actually have learned a lot of that architectural writing from the lengthy descriptions that are included in the NRHP noms. Eventually I realized I had to join WP:WPARCH. Daniel Case (talk) 09:22, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Swissôtel Chicago AfD close

As director of WP:CHICAGO, I found the decision to delete at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Swissôtel Chicago to be very curious.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:55, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

How so? Of those arguing "keep", one said that there were "plenty of potential sources" - that he hadn't actually bothered to look through to see if "any of them are reliable and non-trivial". The other merely said "all major luxury hotels are notable", which is not a policy-based argument (and indeed, not really even an argument). Those arguing "delete", on the other hand, actually made policy-based arguments about a paucity of independent reliable secondary sources. Jayjg ^(talk) 02:48, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

It seems that most tall buildings are considered notable. I have never seen a building on any of theses: Template:US tallest buildings lists deleted for example. The article was deleted, so I can not see how tall it was, but I assume it was pretty tall.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 16:34, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Real estate

In case you every move to Bloomington, this [1] is now a private home. Kinda makes you want to violate the 10th commandment. Moses Montefiore Congregation cheers.OldShul (talk) 20:25, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Wow. Upkeep must be pretty expensive. Jayjg ^(talk) 02:49, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Quick question

Saw that you were recently active on ANI and thought I'd ask someone as a sanity-check before I posted there. What do you make of this user's edits? I posted a welcome and suggestion on their talk page to use summaries. Though I'm not seeing vandalism, it does seem like nothing more than adding a lot of pointless revisions unless I'm missing something....at the rate they are progressing, I'm wondering if it could be a bot. Your thoughts? OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 03:07, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

It appears to me the editor is removing excess blank spaces and blank lines. It's not entirely pointless, but it is a bit odd. It also looks fairly automated, but it's only 1 or 2 edits a minute - a bot doing something this simple would probably do it faster, unless on a slow internet link. A determined editor could do that by hand, if strongly motivated. It is strange. Jayjg ^(talk) 03:29, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Zendesk

A while back you deleted Zendesk after an AfD. I am not questioning your reading of the AfD, but do believe the subject is notable. (See [2]). As such, I would like to undelete and userify it in order to fix the article, but before I did I wanted to run it by you just in case you objected.

Thanks, ThaddeusB (talk) 01:14, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for asking. I have no objection. Jayjg ^(talk) 02:19, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Awesome. Hopefully I can fix the article. :) --ThaddeusB (talk) 02:31, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Good luck! Jayjg ^(talk) 02:32, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Industrial Data Exchange

A while back you deleted Industrial Data Exchange (or IDX / IDXsuite for short) after an AfD. Please could you reinstate the page. IDX is a valid software product and it has existed since 1995.