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- For a Table-of-Contents only list of candidates, see Portal:Featured lists/Candidate list.
Major update for Wikipedia:Nominations Viewer
I released Wikipedia:Nominations Viewer two weeks ago. Today, I added new features to the script in response to suggestions made by some users. The script now shows more information when viewing nominations, including when the nomination was submitted, how many people are involved in the nomination, how much support it has received (keeps/delists if at WP:FAR or WP:FLRC), and how many co-nominators there are. If you hover over each piece of information, it will give you some extra details as well. The information shown can be re-arranged as you please, or removed completely, by using the settings as shown in the documentation. If you already have the script installed, you may need to bypass your cache to get the new features. Gary King (talk) 02:14, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
Capitalization naming disagreement at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of National Parks of the United States/archive1
Should "National Parks" be capitalized or lowercase in the list's title? Please comment at the FLC. Dabomb87 (talk) 01:34, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
Red linking
This stigma against red linking needs to be dealt with. Red links cannot be listed on disambiguation pages if nothing else points to them. If there are no red links, they cannot be found with the red link tools, so the articles aren't even considered for creation. — Dispenser 06:28, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
Multiple noms
I understand that one nominator can nominate one FLC at a time. However, if there are co-nominators, can two people co-nominate two at a time?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:43, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
- I don't see why not, we can be pretty flexible about this, as long as the concerns on the first list are mainly addressed, especially if the two are similar in nature, a second nomination is fine. The Rambling Man (talk) 15:48, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
Does anything go for a feature list subject?
After watching the FL-proces for some time now, I've come to notice that there's some dislike for lists which combine two categories (X and Y) to create a "List of X which are Y" i.e. "List of Jewish Nobel-Prize winners" here had some criticism on that point, but failed due to other concerns. Recently a list was brought up for FLRC, List_of_family_relations_in_the_NHL, and I opposed because I found the combination of the two categories "family relations" and "NHL" too weird and fanciful.
I therefore propose (don't know if this is the right forum) that if a list is a combination of two or more categories then the combination should be notable, i.e. there should exist several sources discussing family relations in the NHL and Jews among Nobel laureates, before the list can be considered for FL (hereby acknowledging that a list shouldn't be considered for deletion just because it doesn't have a source making the combination notable, or maybe it should I don't know). Sandman888 (talk) 12:53, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
- I think that this is rule already. Although not explicitly in the criteria, it falls under the "meeting the requirements for all Wikipedia content" part—whether the list is notable. If the combination isn't notable then it shouldn't be on wiki in the first place (this has the obvious caveat of where a combination is created to for size purposes (e.g. this). Rambo's Revenge (talk) 14:41, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
Well how about List_of_Nobel_laureates_affiliated_with_Princeton_University, it isn't said in lead that the Princeton - Nobel laureates link is a notable combination. Should it then be proposed for deletion, due to lack of notability? Note that all of the laureates are already listed in the "Nobel Laureates" list Sandman888 (talk) 15:43, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
- I think so. You can break apart any large group into random sub-groups, but if they aren't notable sub-groups why discuss them? The only exception, I'd say, is when lists are broken apart by name for convinience and ease of reading (like the Civil War MoH winners). Staxringold talkcontribs`
There should not be a rule about this because every list is different and whether it passes FLC or not should be considered case by case.—Chris!c/t 17:28, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
- well why should it be considered on a case by case basis? This leaves a lot of discretion to whoever sees the list, so one day a "List of Afro-American nobel laureates" passes but the next week "List of Jewish Nobel Laureates" fails because other editors are reviewing the list, or perhaps the other editors doesn't like the guy who nominated the list. This is of course hugely inconsistent, and the arbitrary nature of a case-by-case basis favors clear and explicit rules. Sandman888 (talk) 18:17, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
- Again, every list is different. Perhaps the connection between Jewish and Nobel Prize winner is more well-documented, so it is notable to have such list. But this may not be the case in the Afro-American list. We cannot just arbitrarily prohibit them all just because their topic is similar. Besides, there is already rule on this, WP:N, that is quite flexible to fit different cases. I just don't see the need for an extra rule.—Chris!c/t 18:38, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
- So you agree that when splitting into a subgroup, then the subgroup should be notable? I.e. given that the link between Princeton and Nobel Prize winners is not notable, then it should be moved to FLRC or even PROD? As it is now, practice is to allow some lists of questionable notability and deny others, and I'm finding that very inconsistent. So I really believe that a guideline should be made saying that when combining two or more categories, then the link should itself be notable. Sandman888 (talk) 09:21, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
- Well, I agree that when splitting into a subgroup, the subgroup should be notable. But a new guideline is not needed IMO. Wikipedia:Notability already states that every article (or list for that matter) in Wikipedia should be notable. But if people think it is a good idea to have a new guideline, then I will not oppose it.—Chris!c/t 17:24, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
- Again, every list is different. Perhaps the connection between Jewish and Nobel Prize winner is more well-documented, so it is notable to have such list. But this may not be the case in the Afro-American list. We cannot just arbitrarily prohibit them all just because their topic is similar. Besides, there is already rule on this, WP:N, that is quite flexible to fit different cases. I just don't see the need for an extra rule.—Chris!c/t 18:38, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
- well why should it be considered on a case by case basis? This leaves a lot of discretion to whoever sees the list, so one day a "List of Afro-American nobel laureates" passes but the next week "List of Jewish Nobel Laureates" fails because other editors are reviewing the list, or perhaps the other editors doesn't like the guy who nominated the list. This is of course hugely inconsistent, and the arbitrary nature of a case-by-case basis favors clear and explicit rules. Sandman888 (talk) 18:17, 15 May 2010 (UTC)