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Guests

Please don't keep reverting the change on the guest . Check the sources and the links provided . Most mention of them working together but not on which album . Plus of the one mentioning Cashis working on the album . Cashis and D12 told they 'll be on Relapse but were not . 50 cent told he'll be all over Relapse but he was not . No word can be taken official until Eminem says it himself . Asid12345678 (talk) 14:34, 3 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Exactly. There's absolutely no f-ing way Lil Wayne, Drake, and Lloyd Banks are on the album. Heck, 50 Cent may be questionable at this point. I'd say the only feature to EXPECT would be Dre, as he's the executive producer and has had a verse on every Eminem album to date (except Infinite.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Evan1989 (talkcontribs) 20:39, 2 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Quit the Fake Tracklist

whoever put the tracklist on 2010 quit its wrong there is only one confirmed song and thats "insult to injury" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.226.156.6 (talk) 22:46, 8 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Confirmed Songs

Insult to Injury Hit me with your best shot featuring D12 Keys to the City And theirs a song from the Alchemist produced A song where Eminem and 50 Cent go back and forth —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.7.255.170 (talk) 16:09, 5 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]


^"Keys to the City" was released as a promotional single(2007) for The Alchemist's album Chemical Warfare in 2009...

And Em was not in it...

Relapse 2 Is About Done!

http://www.theboombox.com/2010/03/19/exclusive-eminems-relapse-2-almost-done-jay-electronica-on/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.136.27.19 (talk) 18:15, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hit Me With Your Best Shot Ft D12

It's been almost two years since Detroit's D12 have collectively released an album. While 2008's Dirty Dozen was the group's first to showcase them without the marquee attraction of Eminem or their late co-founder Proof, Bizarre explained how the respective members have been using their time apart.

While on tour in Canada promoting his Friday Night At St. Andrew's album, Bizarre called in to the "Conspiracy Worldwide" radio show to address all things D12.

"We're still recording the third album, and we just finished a song on Relapse 2 for Marshall's album," Bizarre said via phone. Tentatively titled "Hit Me With Your Best Shot," Bizarre says the collaboration shows that despite major losses such as the death of co-founding member Proof, nothing can keep the group down.

"We're still family , but everybody's got their own situations going on," he added. "No matter what y'all do, you can't hold D12 down. We've been through a lot of shit, but we're still gonna come back and recover."

http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.10875/title.d12s-bizarre-talks-relapse-2-canibus-diss-track

Nice find. I've added the information into the article. SE KinG. User page. Talk. 21:10, 23 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No Relapse 2

Eminem has posted on his twitter account that "There is no Relapse 2". Papasj (talk) 11:47, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

--Yup, and since his account is verified, someone change the title... Bnvdarklord (talk) 15:58, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Recovery

Eminem posted on his Twitter that the album name is now Recovery and its set for a release date of June 22nd. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.125.245.2 (talk) 19:33, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request from Eminem2010, 24 April 2010

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Life Will Stop Eminem

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Life Will Stop Eminem New Song From Recovery PROOF URL LINK http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEO7Cv7FWNk

Requests to edit semi-protected articles must be accompanied by reference(s) to reliable sources.
YouTube and Twitter are not reliable sources.  Chzz  ►  12:10, 24 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done

The song "Not Afraid" Will premiere on Shade45 on Thursday April, 29th 2010 at 10am

check his managers Twitter ... www.twitter.com/bunyan71

hey i got the single on my youtubechannel. heres the link for the song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCyQM9MawvY

btw in the song he says that he'll never do the accent thing again^^

Recovery

I bet recovery is going to be the recovery of Eminem having a relapse —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.80.74.30 (talk) 14:06, 28 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Album cover

The album cover is fake. It's a still from the "Beautiful" video. Someone please remove it.

No, it is sourced by a reliable source. SE KinG. User page. Talk. 20:52, 29 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What reliable source?It's a photo from the annual Eminem calender , I can scan my calender as proof. Asid12345678 (talk) 19:43, 30 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It was posted by Rap-Up Magazine when "Not Afraid" was posted. Click on the cover and look at source. SE KinG. User page. Talk. 19:45, 30 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes , and where does it confirm that it's the album cover . Rap Up is the same website that posted the fake Refill tracklist saying it was true . Since when did blogs like Rap Up become official sources sir. Asid12345678 (talk) 19:48, 30 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Here is a scan of my 2010 Eminem calender http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/369/13backcover.th.jpg . Please get a more reliable source next time .Asid12345678 (talk) 19:50, 30 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The "blogs are unreliable source" rule has loopholes. Rap-Up is one of them. Also Rap-Up did not post the Refill tracklisting, I just searched the archives. Since when can't an artist use a photo for a cover? Please do not argue unless you can back it up with a source, a calendar is not even a source. SE KinG. User page. Talk. 06:55, 1 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

And where does it mention that that is the official cover . Even smaller artists are give separate pages for official album covers . Forget smaller artists Eminem's Relapse had a separate page for the album cover.eg. Snoop dogg , Rihanna etc . Raprader which is co owned by Eminem's manager first told that might be the album cover and then deleted it .And since when did artists start using old photos as Album cover . Atleast Eminem doesn't do that . Asid12345678 (talk) 09:24, 1 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Your argument is still invalid. Your saying all these things without providing ANY kind of proof or sources. SE KinG. User page. Talk. 19:10, 1 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Excuse me , YOU are the one you should provide proof here . Every person here is supporting me except you . Give us proof that Rap-up has written that it's the official cover of the album . Give us proof that Eminem has been using OLD pictures as album covers . Give us proof that Rap-Up has stopped making separate pages for covers of Anticipated Albums .In face Recovery was placed at the 2nd position at Rap=up in the most anticipated lists . Give us proof that why Eminem has not even put the album cover on his twitter or his own website like he did when Relapse's album cover was released . Please give us Proof . Asid12345678 (talk) 20:05, 1 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Who is supporting you? Your the only one arguing with me. I have posted the link where Rap-Up posted the cover and I provided the source on the image page. It doesn't matter if they didn't post it separate. They still posted it. The only thing you have provided is redundant explanations of original research and a picture of a calendar. I don't see how that makes you think your right. Stop arguing and find a source that says the cover posted is not official and I'll gladly drop my argument. SE KinG. User page. Talk. 20:11, 1 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I was asked to join this discussion, but I'm actually not quite sure on which side I'll come down on. SE KinG is right that Rap-Up isn't just a blog, it's also a magazine, and the one time it was brought up at the noticeboard for reliable sources it was called reliable. However, I for one am not sure how much to trust their page. They are not audited, and they do get things wrong: a very recent error I remember is that they claimed Rihanna's "Rockstar 101" to be released as her fourth single, which turned out to be false (but MTV got that one wrong too, so ...).
Rap-Up has categorized the article as Album Covers, FWIW, and it's not necessarily an issue that the cover is based on a still from the video. Asid, do you have something further on the incorrect tracklist that you say came from Rap-Up? You said the image was circulating, can you point towards other sites where the image was brought up? I couldn't find any, only other fakes.
I've just added a disclaimer in the caption, to distance ourselves somewhat from the fact, and asked User:Kww for his opinion. Hopefully this will clear up over the next few days anyway.
Cheers, Amalthea 22:17, 1 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No where in that reference provided is stated that this image is the album cover of this album. Do U(knome)? yes...or no 02:57, 2 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed it says no where in the source that thats the cover. When did a picture next to something that mentions a song in the album become the cover. It could be a promotional poster. And plus it doesnt look like something Eminem would make his album cover. STAT- Verse 03:14, 2 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Exactly , since when did "rumored" covers started getting accepted on wikipedia . Raprapdar changed the image n the article as soon as they knew it was fake , they changed to some photo of Eminem performing so there's no way I can give any "proof" on that base but still just wait for 15-20 days when the tracklist and Cover are released through Em's twitter like it did last year during Relapse . Asid12345678 (talk) 04:51, 2 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

For starters, Twitter is an unreliable source. And still NO ONE has provided anything besides original research to prove the album cover is fake. SE KinG. User page. Talk. 05:46, 2 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

For vetrans , Twitter can be considered a reliable source if the account is verified and the title of the artists album was announced on the twitter itself . Asid12345678 (talk) 06:27, 2 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No one uses Twitter as a reliable source. This argument is just being repeated points. Just because a picture was used before, it does not justify it to be removed. T.I. used the same picture for his singles "Hell of a Life" and "I'm Back", "Live in the Sky"'s single cover art was a desktop wallpaper that T.I. had on his website. So, just because an artist uses a picture once, doesn't mean they can't use it again. SE KinG. User page. Talk. 03:19, 3 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
An Album cover is Different from a Single Cover . Eminem too has been using old photo's as his Single cover including the recent single Not Afraid who's photo was circulating around for a few days .Also ,Hell Breaks Loose , Elevator , Just Lose It , Encore (the single) , Stan , The Way I Am . But then again , i was just doing what you did , repeating the facts you already know . An Album cover , specially by the Biggest Artist of our time makes news . Relapse's cover had a separate page on MTV .So , I'm surprised you didn't change the title of the album back to Relapse 2 because for the first 10 days until Eminem gave the radio interview , his twitter was the only way we knew about his Album's title as Recover but then again you'll say the twitter rule as loopholes right ? Weird how Rap-Up is the only website who wish to show the cover of Eminem's album anymore . Guess the man who has the highest selling Rap Album of this century and the highest selling Rap Album of 2009 is over . God Help Him . Asid12345678 (talk) 07:29, 3 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
FWIW, a Twitter account of a singer can be used as a primary source, for facts where it is appropriate. But that doesn't help us here. Amalthea 10:13, 3 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, the day he announced he changed his album title to Recovery, he also posted it on his website and MTV posted it. This argument is now redundant with the same thing being said. I'm done arguing, removing sourced content goes against Wiki policies. SE KinG. User page. Talk. 12:07, 3 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Are you referring to me? I only talked about Twitter as a source in general, I'm not arguing against the cover image: I agree that it's coming from a reliable source, no other reliable source disputes it, so it passes WP:VERIFIABILITY. Since it hasn't been confirmed officially and I am somewhat suspicious, I added the disclaimer to explicitly say where it came from. Since nobody can offer anything beyond suspicions, I agree that we should keep it unless it can be shown as false. Amalthea 13:38, 3 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, the source stated does not state that it is the album cover. If he did release the album cover then the site you cited would have a seperate news article for it, not one for the song "Not Afraid". Also the listing for Recovery at Amazon.com does not display anything for the cover yet. I have looked and I cannot find any reputable sources that also state that is if the official album cover, just a bunch of fan sources. If it was the official album cover then it would be announced on all of the reputable sources, including MTV. Even the people in Eminem's forums have proven it to be a fake [1]. Therefore it is not the official cover for "Recovery". Taylor Karras (talk | contribs | Rcool35) 22:39, 17 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Those are two AMAZING sources you have provided, a forum and a retailer. Great job. SE KinG. User page. Talk. 05:02, 18 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note that Amazon.com is a big and notable retailer, obviously if this was the real album cover then we would see it on Amazon.com, also the forum thing is not proof that it is a fake, it is a consensus that the album cover is a fake. Your missing out on the fact that the source (Rap-Up.com) does not state that this is the official album cover, anywhere. The image is just used in relation to a new song, where does it state in the source that this is the album cover, the official album cover. Also what do you mean Eminem and MTV posted this cover on his website, can you give me a source for that?
This is completely crazy, if it's posted on Eminem's twitter, website, MTV or Amazon.com then it's official, otherwise it's fake unless the source states that it's the official cover. And I'm not referring to Wikipedia, I'm referring to everywhere. Taylor Karras (talk | contribs | Rcool35) 05:42, 18 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It doesn't matter how big of a retailer Amazon is, it is NOT a reliable source. You need to read Wikipedia's reliable source policy before you attempt to argue sources. SE KinG. User page. Talk. 12:14, 18 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It's a reliable source to me because the major music companies (UMG, Warner Music Group, EMI, Sony Music) sell their products on Amazon and it's also a reliable source because the major music companies post what the official album cover actually is. Also aren't you ignoring the two other sources... It's kind of odd you would focus on one thing. Taylor Karras (talk | contribs | Rcool35) 01:24, 19 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well , SE king , I guess now I can say this again that "everyone" is supporting me . Here's another source which obviously is not gonna convince you .http://www.hiphopmusicdotcom.com/eminem-recovery-mixtape.html Asid12345678 (talk) 06:39, 20 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request from Everjeff, 29 April 2010

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The reference for the mention of Recovery featuring Lil Wayne and Drake doesn't actually say that anywhere.

Everjeff (talk) 19:06, 29 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

 DoneSpitfire19 (Talk) 22:18, 29 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

To be fixed when protection is removed

"The song features his rap group D12, Bizarre of D12 said the new song shows the groups strength despite losing Proof, who was the founder of the group. " ^There are two errors. First, the first comma creates a comma splice that must be removed (i.e., replace the comma with a period). Second, 'groups strength' should be 'group's strength'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.98.43.241 (talk) 18:26, 30 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Warning

How could the warning be a confirmed track it was a freestyle diss. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.67.204.38 (talk) 22:01, 2 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Where is it a confirmed track? SE KinG. User page. Talk. 03:14, 3 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Someone made a confirmed track section and it was there. But no worries that section is gone STAT- Verse 03:25, 3 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That cover is fake

The picture is from an Eminem poster. http://www.starstore.com/acatalog/eminem-10-b-cal-dan.jpg --DinoAvdic (talk) 17:09, 3 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As discussed two sections up, at #Album cover, isn't it possible that the same image is being reused as a cover? The magazine Rap-Up claims the image to be the cover, by listing it in its "Album covers" category. They are usually reliable, but it's not a sure thing of course unless confirmed by the production company, which is why the cover is captioned with "according to Rap-Up". Amalthea 17:27, 3 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yep. It's fake. I can't believe people think it's a real cover. lol. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.42.159.47 (talk) 07:48, 4 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Has any source said it was fake or are you just deciding that it is fake?--99.234.115.165 (talk) 00:50, 6 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Do sources really have to do this?If I spent some time and made a fake Cover , the sources wouldn't acknowledge that you know —Preceding unsigned comment added by Asid12345678 (talkcontribs) 05:32, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I love how some people think they are intelligent saying its real. No, it's not, lol. It was cropped from a freakin' calender. It was from the Beautiful music video shoot. Why would they use something from a past album for the cover. And look at the text for "Recovery". I'm so sure it's gonna look like that. Oh, and Interscope, nor Eminem have confirmed it. When it gets confirmed, THAT'S when you post it. I'm so sure Rap Up is gonna get the cover before any official website does. Jp0291 (talk) 00:55, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's fake for two reasons: 1) A guy admitted he created the cover in a forum(not really solid source, I know, but worth mentioning), and most importantly 2) The cover should be in eminem.com instead of that refill theme they still have. Bnvdarklord (talk) 22:47, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]