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salo is basically the world today —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.180.205.150 (talk) 15:21, 11 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No subject

Moved these data here as they add little to the article and are unlikely to be of much interest to readers of this version of the 'pedia:

Director
Pier Paolo Pasolini;
Script
Pier Paolo Pasolini, Sergio Citti;
Camera
Tonino Delli Colli;
Produced by
Alberto Grimaldi for PEA (Rome)/Les Productions Artistes Associés (Paris);
Actors
Paolo Bonacelli, Aldo Valletti, Giorgio Cataldi, Umberto Paolo Quintavalle, Sonia Saviange, Caterina Boratto, Sergio Fascetti, Bruno Musso, Giuliana Melis, Dorit Henke and others

Ellsworth

DVD Versions

I changed the second to last paragraph under "Versions," mainly the statement that the BFI version is superior. While it is a bit better than the Criterion (albeit the burnt-in subtitles), it is miles behind the vastly superior French version on Gaumont Columbia Tristar Home Video. Take a look at http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDCompare/salo.htm and you will see what I mean. I also added this link to the "External Links" section.

Artificial Silence

WOW! What DVD did those screencaps come from? That looks way cleaner than the Criterion DVD which is a port of their laserdisc which actually had better picture quality in that format. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.227.162.82 (talk • contribs) 08:22, 10 December 2006

Marzabotto

Hi, I think there is an error in the plot. I saw the movie last week at a movie theater and I think the children were kidnapped from Marzabotto and taken to Salo. Marzabotto was the scene of a terrible massacre made by fascists, so in the fiction nobody would know about the children missing. Orkolorko —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.222.32.61 (talk) 00:09, 15 February 2007 (UTC).[reply]


  • You're almost right. The teens are kidnapped in Marzabotto, then taken to a villa outside of that town. Towards the end of the film, the libertines announce they will take the survivors with them to Salo.DRoninLA 16:17, 14 April 2008 (UTC)DRoninA[reply]

Fair use rationale for Image:Libertines and dogs.jpg

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Error under 'Acclaim'

I looked up the actors under other sources and no source corroborates that Dana Carvey appears as the President in this film. This mistaken information has also made it onto the Dana Carvey bio. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.188.230.235 (talk) 19:44, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I can't believe anyone would even go so far as to check! Dana Carvey was 20 when Salo was shot, and clearly much too young to have played one of the libertines - even if Pasolini had been minded to cast a totally unknown US comedian as a middle-aged Italian. 86.139.73.152 (talk) 20:01, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Carvey did in fact play "The President", if you compare his picture to that of "our illustrious Presidenté", you will see that they are undoubtably the same person. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.151.27.42 (talk) 21:58, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Dana Carvey claim is totally credible, it's completely supported by many reputable sources, including any of the many, many texts on this film. Gary Indiana mentioned it in his BFI monograph, as well as other numerous references to popular US culture. I also note that the person who insists on adding this fact has also been adding useful and relevant material, such as details of the contents of the new BFI DVD and Blu-ray editions, he is a credit to wikipedia. 212.161.31.33 (talk) 10:06, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

For the record, the comment immediately above this one (dated 15 September 2008) has been vandalised since its original appearance. If you assume that the first version said more or less the exact opposite of what it currently says, you'll be a lot closer to the truth! But since the vandal now implies that Gary Indiana DOES claim that Dana Carvey appeared in the film, perhaps he would care to cite an exact page reference? 86.139.73.152 (talk) 10:08, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Unsourced statements

I have removed the statements lacking inline citations to this page until sources can be found for them. --Nehrams2020 (talk) 05:12, 18 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • The film's legality has been questioned — namely, whether or not the actors and actresses who enacted simulated sex and violence in the film were of the age of consent.
  • Culturally, Salò was voted "The Most Controversial Film Ever Made" by readers in a 2006 readers' poll by Time Out magazine.

Style/Tone of Article

This entry is written like a magazine article. "It is clear that..." ",however,..." "Moreover..." It needs to be pared down to an encyclopedia article. Also, it has numerous comma splices (look that up if you don't know what it is), so I don't know how it got the green check mark for grammar above. [Yes, I know I could fix it myself but I'm sick of spending an hour fixing up an article, just to have the original author get incensed that someone dared to modify "his" work. Then the reverts and endless arguments start. Sometimes it's easier to just point something out, and move along.] Tragic romance (talk) 17:33, 15 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Propaganda-film

In this movie you can see soldiers of DECIMA FLOTTIGLIA MAS committ rape and torture, there are no proof whatsoever that they did this in WWII, it's just propaganda. X-MAS soldiers did never rape people, and they especially didn't kill ITALIAN KIDS.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.32.97.204 (talk) 23:44, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

DVD version in Germany

If someone wants to find out which one is true: This page says that the DVD is freely available in Germany, while de:Die 120 Tage von Sodom (Film) says it’s not. --Nomeata (talk) 21:50, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Circle of Shit?

Underneath plot/synopsis, it said that the movie was parallel to Dante's inferno..."Anteinferno, circle of manias,circle of shit, and circle of blood."

Is this vandalism? I've already removed that part anyways. Just curious. --Fruit.Smoothie (talk) 22:30, 28 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Why would you think it's vandalism? I have reinserted the information as it appears to be valid (see this, this and this review). Your edit make that part of the article nonsensical in that it refers to four sections while naming only three. ElijahOmega (talk) 10:36, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Reception and Controversy

I edited the sentence, "A large group of artists, including Martin Scorsese and Alec Baldwin, and scholars signed a legal brief arguing the film's artistic merit; the case was dismissed on a technicality." The Constitution is NOT a technicality. As the ACLU newsletter source makes clear, the Judge dismissed the case because the police violated the store owners' right against unreasonable searches and seizures. In addition, I removed the passive voice in the clause following the semicolon. Sdeplonty (talk) 02:26, 24 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Unclear on victims

The top paragraph states that the victims in the film are executed one by one, but a later paragraph says that those that refuse to collaborate with the fascists are tortured and killed. Which is it? AndarielHalo (talk) 16:10, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not Banned in the US

The article has this film listed as if it were banned in the US. I've seen this film readily available at several stores such as Best Buy and Fry's Electronics (at least in here Southern California), so where does information come from? --HiroProtagonist 16:16, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

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