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NPOV concerns
This article is not NPOV. Someone should add a section on Criticisms of the Nature Conservancy. There was a series of articles in the Washington Post a couple of years back about certain concerns at the NC which would be a good starting point. If no one does this, I'll try to do it when I have time. Martinp 18:45, 1 February 2006 (UTC) (who is actually a NC supporter)
- Took a first stab at this, wikified, and removed the NPOV tag. Improvements welcome. Martinp 20:33, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
I removed the inefficient section under criticisms due to the fact that they do recieve high marks from the BBB wise giving alliance as well as charitynavigator.com additionally according to both they use slightly more money percentage wise than the National Wildlife Federation but less than Defenders of Wildlife (unsigned comment)
User Wellspring removed the following statement: "The organization promotes commercial development of its holdings; some of these developments have resulted in the destruction of endangered species habitat[3] and violation of indigenous persons rights to live on their native lands.[4]" Wellspring stated reason was that the sources did not support the statement, which I find to not be true by reading the cited articles as well as other critical articles about the Conservancy from notable outlets such as the Washington Post. Therefore I undid his edit and placed the statement and sources within the lead of the article. Nnoell (talk) 05:43, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
The sections on Criticisms need sharpening and re-organizing. To start with, it is not helpful to give a detailed rebuttal of the Washington Post articles without first summarizing the key points in those articles. The NC typically has local branches with board members with vested interests who steer policy and practice in their own direction. While the NC's work is mostly valuable, it is a large, well-connected organization that operates secretively, and is at least as concerned about itself as about the environment, While this is not necessarily a bad thing, it needs far more independent analysis, criticism and comment (like this!) to do its job effectively. The Wikipedia article should be a step in this direction, not the advertisement it currently seems to be.
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Section appears to copy news item
This section was removed from the page because it appears to be copied from a news source:
:January 16, 2003
- Nature Conservancy to sell donated woodland. Woodbury, NY – Katherine Stainton dedicated herself to keeping her town green.:She served for years on the parks commission and donated land for a town park. :When she died, two of her children gave their shares of her 178-acre estate to the Nature Conservancy.:The nature preservation group plans to sell the mostly wooded property to a developer. "We are selling it, and we have an offer that we have accepted," said John Dwelley, dispositions manager for the conservancy, which is based in Arlington, Va. Dwelley wouldn't reveal the sale price or identity of the expected buyer, except to say the buyer is well-known for his projects in Woodbury. :Sources confirmed the buyer is Wayne Corts, who's building the luxurious Greens of Woodbury, a 63-home development off Smith Clove Road. Corts didn't return calls for comment. Dwelley said the conservancy always planned to sell its portion of the Stainton property - which is off Dunderberg Road and near Monroe-Woodbury High School - since it harbors no rare plants or animals and has no special ecological significance. : There are several vacant homes and other buildings on the property. Part of the land was once farmed. : "It's not like it's a pristine piece of property," he said.
- But the sale irks a neighbor of the estate and a board member of the Orange County Land Trust, a land-preservation group. He said the land should be preserved because Woodbury needs open space for passive recreation to balance the population growth in town. : And he feels the conservancy may have overlooked environmentally significant features of the property. Besides, he added, its selling land to a developer "just seems to run so counter to what they're about." : The Nature Conservancy viewed the estate as "trade land," useful mainly for the proceeds that could be raised by selling it. It often sells assets it's given - including land, houses and condominiums - to finance efforts to protect more significant property, Dwelley said. : Locally, the conservancy is working to protect the Shawangunk Ridge and the 60-mile-long Neversink River. Stainton, who died in 1994 at age 90, belonged to the wealthy Cornell family, which has deep roots in Central Valley. : She was a longtime member of the Woodbury Parks Commission. In 1970, she bought 100 acres around Earl Reservoir and donated it to the town, creating what is today a beloved town park. : After her death, two of her children, agreed to give their portions of the estate to the Nature Conservancy. A second daughter, had separate plans for her third of the land. In October 1998, the three heirs agreed in Orange County Surrogate Court to divide the land into three shares of equal worth, if not equal size. : In January 2000, the conservancy first went before the Woodbury Planning Board for approval to subdivide the land. But by the middle of last year, after 2½ years before the board, the conservancy gave up.: By then, the three heirs had agreed to sell the property without subdividing it. One heir would get a third of the proceeds, and the Nature Conservancy would take half of the remaining two thirds. The final portion would go to another, unspecified charity. In the end, the conservancy spent "several hundred thousands of dollars" on property taxes and fees for lawyers and engineers while seeking subdivision approval, Dwelley said. : Even so, the organization hopes to make some money from the deal in order to fund its preservation work. "We are optimistic," Dwelley said, "that there will be some left over." One of the heirs, said by phone that he and his sister knew the conservancy would sell their portions of the estate and he had no objection to a developer buying it. : "We gave it to the conservancy so they could sell it to whoever they wanted," he said. "It's old farmland. There's nothing very special about it." : A neighbor said Katherine Stainton's work in preserving open space in Woodbury only heightens the irony of a land-preservation group selling her property to a developer. "It's like a double or triple irony to me," he said. : The land was sold to the CARTERET GROUP in Pearl River, NY, is now the future home of Woodbury Junction a development of 450 homes 130 being senior housing starting around $300,000.00 each.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.99.77.157 (talk) 20:52, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
Historical timeline update
It would be good if someone would insert into this section when they launched their website on the internet. That's also part of the TNC's history.Zul32 (talk) 17:52, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
Heroes bit
I've chopped the following short list. Seems to need some introductory material cited to the Conservancy or elsewhere regarding such heroes plus some criteria. The Petty article doesn't mention this hero bit. Vsmith (talk) 14:12, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
'==Nature Conservancy Heroes==
- Ben Kennedy..Montana <ref>http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/22/opinion/22tue4.html?ref=opinion</ref><ref>http://www.queencitynews.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=10892&mode=flat&order=0&thold=0</ref>
- Clarence Petty<ref>http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/06/science/earth/06petty.html?_r=1&hpw</ref><ref>http://www.dec.ny.gov/pubs/51186.html</ref>