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If anyone could spare a bit of time to help me with "The Man Don't Give a Fuck" by Super Furry Animals that would be awesome! The song has been released twice, once as a non-album studio recording and once as a 23 minute live version to support the release of the band's greatest hits compilation Songbook: The Singles, Vol. 1 (the album actually contains the studio version with the DVD featuring a video of the live version) I'm really struggling to decide how to format the article so if anyone has any ideas (or can point me in the direction of similar articles that are GA or FA) please let me know! For the record I haven't worked on the lead so I know there are problems with it. Cavie78 (talk) 15:07, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Radio Free Europe (song). Not a GA/FA, though.—indopug (talk) 15:48, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks! Cavie78 (talk) 10:20, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Speaking of which, I never quite figured out how to structure Radio Free Europe (song) in a wholly satisfactory manner (one of the biggest issues is how to approach the infobox/es). I hope you can point the way with that SFA page, Cavie. WesleyDodds (talk) 06:27, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hey everyone, I've been keeping an eye on several Red Hot Chili Peppers articles NSR77 brought to FA status ever since he left, but my absence in the last few months has meant many of those have quickly fallen into disrepair. These articles include most of the albums plus pages on John Frusciante and Flea (musician). If anyone wants to help spruce them up again, please lend a hand. WesleyDodds (talk) 11:08, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
(Since Brit Eng follows a different standard on this issue than other languages, for now all edits will be confined toNON-British musical groups.)
I will be systematically going through and editing every single article that uses the plural forms of passive verbs when referring to bands. (i.e. - "The Killers are an American rock band" "The Moldy Peaches were an indie group") I'm not sure why this glaring error is something that has been used only for musical groups, but it is most assuredly incorrect. A band is asingle unit - when talking about a band, in any tense, the singular form should always be used. Were we to be talking about themembers of the band collectivelly (i.e. - "Zooey Deschanel and M. Ward are the comprising members of the band She & Him") then it would be appropriate to use the plural forms of verbs, pronouns, etc... For further clarification, take the article on the United Nations. While the UN is made of of a large number of individual countries, the organization known as theUnited Nations is one single thing. So the article (correctly) states "The United Nations Organization (UNO) or simply United Nations (UN)is an international organization..."
(For a simpler way of looking at it, try replacing this band's name with the term "this band" - "The Killers are a band..." "This band are a band..." Obviously, the singular form should be used: "This Band is a band..." "The Killers is a band..."
I hope this makes sense to anyone reading it. Obviously, there are a lot of articles out there which need this kind of editing and it will take a long time for me to do so by myself. Feel free to pitch in and make alterations anytime you see this plural/singluar error. Send any questions, comments or objections to my talk page. (This entire text will be copied verbatim into the talk page of evey band article I correct.) ocrasaroon|blah blah blah 20:32, 21 July 2010 (UTC).[reply]
- Before you change anything , please read American_and_British_English_differences#Formal_and_notional_agreement. This explains why 'The Killers are...' is correct, even in American English.--Michig (talk) 06:44, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- We have had several edit wars in band articles over this, including some in which I have participated. The most annoying and stupid are the ones where they keep changing the verb in the first sentence back and forth whilst ignoring the rest of the article. There is no absolute answer to this; while there are differences in British English and American English usage, both allow for either plural or singular usage for group nouns, depending on the situation. Michig is correct, if the band name is plural (like your examples The Killers and The Moldy Peaches) then it should take a plural verb, in both American English and British English. Also, see Synesis and Collective_noun#Metonymic_merging_of_grammatical_number for more information about notional agreement. If you start systematically making these changes, particularly to just the first sentences of articles, you will probably find yourself in the middle of multiple edit wars -- Foetusized (talk) 13:18, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Please see Magnapop I have requested assessment before, but then I didn't get it and just rated it myself (which I recognize is poor form.) I'd like to bring this up to GA status, so please leave comments either at the talk page or a comments subpage. Thanks. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:08, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I have nominated Nirvana (band) for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Sir Richardson (talk) 14:28, 20 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I would welcome comments Big Star since there seem to be a small group of editors who insist on listing the three replacement members of the band as current members. The band died with Chilton, they seem to want to wait for some sort official announcement that will most likely never come. 70.119.247.185 (talk) 00:51, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- To make this clear so that we don't split the conversation comments should be made on the Big Star talk page [1]. 70.119.247.185 (talk) 05:33, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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