Talk:Kim Cattrall

Gay Icon Project

In my effort to merge the now-deleted list from the article Gay icon to the Gay icons category, I have added this page to the category. I engaged in this effort as a "human script", adding everyone from the list to the category, bypassing the fact-checking stage. That is what I am relying on you to do. Please check the article Gay icon and make a judgment as to whether this person or group fits the category. By distributing this task from the regular editors of one article to the regular editors of several articles, I believe that the task of fact-checking this information can be expedited. Thank you very much. Philwelch 20:17, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)

NPOV needed

this article is gushing about how amazingly sexy and talented she is... What? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Noirish (talk • contribs) 10:46, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

Agreed. This article has some good information, but overall reads like a fan page you would expect in People magazine. Ben 07:36, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

I fully agree with Ben...whether it was the author's intent or not, they definitely wrote it with a bias point of view. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Black Kat (talk • contribs) 07:08, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

I have removed much of the non-NPOV info from this article. Can I remove the notice? Ckessler —Preceding undated comment added 21:59, 30 December 2005 (UTC).

The last two sentences from "Childhood" still read like a soft-porn edition of People magazine... could you just remove them? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Brainybear (talk • contribs) 12:14, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Possible factual error

Cattrall (and the others) have stated that there was no feuding on set, but it was rumored, so that part of the Trivia is true. However, I don't think she was able to make it to Parker's birthday party. She was in a play at the time and couldn't make it; thusly, no feud could have been mended there. At least, this is what I believe was stated in the E! True Hollywood Stories about Sex and the City I was watching earlier. Can someone check and correct? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.209.60.58 (talk • contribs) 22:37, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Bibliography

C. has (co-)authored at least three books (Satisfaction, Girl and Sexual Intelligence). In a biography it seems prudent to list them —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.168.26.52 (talk • contribs) 11:45, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Desperate Housewives, Bob Clark

I think we should call bullshit on the KC-on-Desperate Houseives rumor, which originated with a fairly untrustworthy UK tabloid nearly a year ago now and hasn't been confirmed by either more relieable sources or an appearance by KC on the show. If no-one objects or beats me to the punch, I'll take it down in a day or two (or will try to remember to do so, anyway!). Also, I was surprised by any lack of a reference to Kim's tendency to collaborate with the great Canadian B-director Bob Clark--all their films together are mentioned, but with no ref to Clark or their working relationship. For some reason I though he was one of her ex-husbands, but further research proves otherwise. If I add anything, it'll just be a couple words with a link to the article on Clark. Andrewjnyc 19:04, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Sex and the City (2008)

She's listed in her body of work as being in Sex and the City in 2008, I'm assuming that should be changed unless that's specifically referring to the movie, which may or may not be in the works. Anyone? JohnnyRush10 08:50, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Birthplace

Kim Catrall was not born in Walton Liverpool. She was born in Widnes, north Cheshire at Crow Wood Hospital. I grew up in Widnes and it is a well known fact and is publicised by the local council. I am unable to edit the section with this information in it. The present information is factually incorrect. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Distortedvision (talk • contribs) 22:38, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

This article states that Kim was born in Widnes, but an interview article with her from the liverpool echo it says she was born in Mossley hill, which is actually in Liverpool. Which is right?. The article is here:

[1] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.121.151.142 (talk • contribs) 09:51, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

I also don't get why this article says she is born in Widnes. However having had difficulty proving Halle Berry's mother was born in Liverpool apart from newspaper reports, I am not going to get into this debate. The Echo report can go on the article as a reference. Dmcm2008 (talk) 08:46, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

In interviews, and on various websites, Liverpool is always stated as her birthplace. It is only on Wikipedia that I have ever seen it stated that she was born anywhere else.Werdnawerdna (talk) 02:04, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

I've changed the birthplace back to Liverpool as the Windes claim is unsourced. Also major media organisations give the birthplace as Liverpool. See Times [2] and guardian [3] 77.96.49.30 (talk) 20:31, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

... and someone has changed it back to Widnes again <sigh>. In an interview on the BBC program The Paul O'Grady Show, she says *herself* that she is from Liverpool. It can be seen on youtube (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=1d6Rt61HrDk) - coincidentally, at the 1-minute mark. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.101.226.44 (talk • contribs) 01:55, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Birthplace redux

I have added two Liverpool Echo articles (one mentioned above) to give source that Kim Cattrall is from Liverpool. There is no evidence to prove she is from Widnes and there is evidence from Kim Cattrall herself to prove her Liverpool roots. Babydoll9799 (talk) 18:50, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

I also viewed the You Tube interview (Paul O'Grady show [4]) where Kim Cattrall confirms she is from Liverpool, (proud of it) and even puts on a Liverpool accent. She is with another local star Spice Girl Mel C from Whiston (Mel C confirms she was born in Whiston Hospital and does not mention Widnes either). Babydoll9799 (talk) 19:01, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Please read earlier discussion on birthplace. There has been some debate on this is it Liverpool or Widnes, the answer is Liverpool and this has been sourced. Please be wary of persistance to add Widnes. Babydoll9799 (talk) 19:10, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Agreed. I've just changed the infobox birthplace from St Helens to Liverpool, following a reading of reference 1, and listening to reference 2, neither of which support the St Helens birthplace, indeed reference 1 specifically says she was born in Mossley Hill, which is part of Liverpool. -- Arwel Parry (talk) 22:27, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Argh! Someone's gone and reinstated Widnes again. Regardless of what local press in St Helens said last week, she was NOT born there. I have spent a credit on ancestry.co.uk and confirm that the entry on the register of births registered in July, August and September 1956 reads:

CATTRALL, Kim V. (mother's maiden name) BAUGH (Registration district) Liverpool S. (Volume/page) 10 d 1061

The Liverpool South Registration District operated between 1 April 1934 and 1 October 1969, and included the wards of Abercromby, Aigburth, Allerton, Brunswick, Castle Street, Childwall, Dingle, Edge Hill, Exchange, Garston, Granby, Great George, Kensington, Little Woolton, Low Hill, Much Woolton, Princes Park, Scotland, Sefton Park, St Anne’s, St Peter’s, Toxteth Park, Vauxhall, Wavertree and West Wavertree.[5] It most certainly did NOT include Widnes or St Helens. -- Arwel Parry (talk) 21:38, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Birthplace vandalism

I am not an expert of Wikipedia. I am calling on someone to prevent this persistant vandalism and reference to Widnes. BEFORE you edit, note that Wikipedia clearly states articles poorly sourced should not be added and should be removed. Babydoll9799 (talk) 09:52, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

At the moment, "East Helena, Canada" appears in the writing under the photo, near the word "born". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.177.254.83 (talk • contribs) 12:09, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

I have now replaced "Canada" with the more correct "England." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.177.254.83 (talk • contribs) 14:22, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Eleanor Kilgallen

I added details about Kilgallen, the Universal Studios representative who was in charge (together with her business partner Monique James) of the contract player system run by the studio. It was a system that helped aspiring actors get television guest - star roles. James was like a den mother to the contract players who lived in Los Angeles, while Kilgallen handled the New York - based actors, Cattrall included, who got legitimate stage jobs to supplement television work. By this time (late 1970s) box - office movies did not use contract players anymore. If you acted in, say, Smokey and the Bandit, you were freelancing.

As no biography of Cattrall is known to exist, the actress herself could be the only person who can verify my claim of Eleanor Kilgallen's role in her rising career during the late 1970s. Debbiesvoucher (talk) 10:13, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

The stuff about Eleanor is sourced. I put it back in the article with a good source: an article in the Sunday Los Angeles Times from 1977. If you doubt who I am, contact the Los Angeles City Library system and ask them to traceroute the computer I'm using now signed in under my library card number and the last four digits of my private phone number. Thanks for your attention. Please don't remove Eleanor Kilgallen anymore. Nyannrunning (talk) 20:59, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Eleanor Kilgallen redux

This short passage from an old edit is well-sourced and should go back in. It is back in unless someone removes it for the third time. Please discuss here before removing it so we can avoid vandalism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.26.156.93 (talk • contribs) 08:15, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Birth name

Kim Cattrall's birth name was in actual fact Clare Woodgate, the article claims her birth name is Kim Cattrall. (82.38.123.191 (talk) 20:38, 5 January 2008 (UTC))

biography.com states that her birth name was Clare Woodgate.Werdnawerdna (talk) 02:04, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

No, Kim Cattrall's birth name is Kim Victoria Cattrall. Clare Woodgate is the birth name of actress Georgina Cates. At once stage Cattrall's IMDB profile alleged her birth name was "Clare Woodgate". The Observer newspaper took this as fact and published it in a 2005 interview, but later ran this apology:

Our interview below was wrong to repeat a website which said she was born in Liverpool in 1956 'as plain Clare Woodgate'. She was born to Shane and Dennis Cattrall in Liverpool as Kim Victoria Cattrall. Apologies.

The IMDB entry has been corrected but other websites still repeat this erroneous "fact". 118.90.42.34 (talk) 10:51, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Deleted content

Unsourced statements or statements compromised by weasel wording, such as the speculation over why Sex and the City ended which I have just removed, are unacceptable under WP:BLP. There may be other aspects of this article that will need to be deleted unless sources are provided. 23skidoo (talk) 12:47, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Picture of Kim

Hello! I don't really use Wikipedia Commons, but there's a great picture of her here: [6], so could someone with an account put it on her page? Adaircairell (talk) 20:12, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Engaged to Daniel Banzali

Kim was not just linked to Daniel Benzali, she was engaged to him in 1996.

Source: http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20142039,00.html

When I tried to add this to the article, the rest of her page was deleted. I did not know how to fix it so I just undone it and decided to post here. Could someone please properly add it to the article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.19.20.171 (talk • contribs) 23:39, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

External Links

I assume this spamming by Navtones.com is not allowed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.101.226.44 (talk • contribs) 02:04, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Nationality

I have just watched the Kim Catrall episode of "Who do you think you are" on the BBC. About 2mins in Kim declares "I am British". I have adjusted page accordingly. Spudbynight (talk) 22:43, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Kim Cattrall is an English Canadian. Here we make changes according to the reliable sources; you may have watched the episode, but we can't make changes based on that. AdjustShift (talk) 14:03, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Just so you are aware someone can be English and British. They are not exclusive. If someone is English they are also automatically British. Kim Cattrall is not just of British ancestry but of British birth. She was born in England to two english parents. She also self identifies as English/British. I have provided a single verrifiable source quoting her as stating 'I am English'. I have also quoted a second source, including the broadcast date, where she states 'I am British'. Neither statement contradicts the other. Here we don't make changes unless able to quote a source. Please don't change this. Spudbynight (talk) 17:43, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

I have added a third reference quoting the BBC programme. This is a direct quote from Kim herself. Spudbynight (talk) 17:47, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

I have changed the clumsy reference to her being English/Canadian/American as it just reads like a car crash. We have direct quotes from Kim where she self identifies as British or being more specific English. (Neither are mutually exclusive in the same way someone can be a Texan AND an American). She was born in England to two English parents. This looks fairly open and closed to me (and I am Irish rather than English) Just because she has American citizenship does not make her American. American has a very restictive immigration policy meaning many people claim American citizenship in order to facilitate working in the US. I was born in Ireland to Irish parents but I also have American citizenship. I worked for many years in New York and I acquired citizenship. I would never in a million years consider myself as anything other than Irish. There is a trend on Wiki for people of other nationailites to be claimed as American/Something simply because they claim citizenship. I think this is completely wrong and something which probably needs to be looked into in more detail. I know Kim has spent a long time in North America and what I think is probably the best solution is to describe her as 'an English Actress who spent much of her life in Canada before later moving to the United States and claiming American citizenship'. What do others think? 89.101.49.199 (talk) 22:35, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Some people keep vandalising on this. I would second that it should say "English actress". For reference in the UK your nationality is "British". You can still be English aswell of course! Babydoll9799 (talk) 19:29, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

I think that either British or English are acceptable. There is precedent for English being used on the Sean Connery page but British is equally valid (for Kim or Sean) Spudbynight (talk) 09:29, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

I had to check to be sure(re last edit it is not April 1st), but of course isnt Sean Connery Scottish? Not English? Babydoll9799 (talk) 09:58, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I wasn't clear there. I mean the precedent is that Sean Connery is classed as Scottish rather than British. Sean Connery is still technically British but I wouldn't be brave enough to call him that to his face! Kim Catrall is English and she is also British. I think in her case either are accurate. Spudbynight (talk) 17:57, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Nationality redux

It would be better, in the light of her career and nationality, to describe her as "English born". IXIA (talk) 22:08, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Why? She is English born to an English family and self identifies as English. Makes her English in every way

There are three references to support this 78.105.154.28 (talk) 20:41, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Can people stop editing her nationality without citing a source. I have have to revert her nationality to English from "English born, English and Canadian raised, American actress" - That was a mouthful! Spudbynight (talk) 22:03, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

She is, according to the sources, an English born British subject, and a naturalized citizen of both Canada and the USA. That makes her English/Canadian/American. It is editorializing in a way that Wikipedia should not, to down play any of her three citizenships without a source. As such the intro should just read "English/Canadian/American" (since she is all three) and the details go later in the personal life sections. —MJBurrage^(T•C) 03:13, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

As per MOS:BIO#Opening paragraph, ethnicity is not emphasized. If lived in the U.S. and was an American citizen when she became notable, that is generally what should be listed. Nymf _hideliho! 16:14, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

She self identifies as British/English rather than English/Canadian/American 78.105.154.28 (talk) 20:43, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Basketball players

Whoever put that she was linked to two basketball players is a moron, it's not true or it would be public knowledge. Is this site ever going to tell the truth about anything anymore. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.105.43.104 (talk • contribs) 04:52, 27 December 2009 (UTC)