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What's in a vacuum?

Bit new to this Wikipedia editing stuff, so forgive me if I've erred, but I found the phrase about the 'powerful vacuum' a little irritating, so I slightly edited this article. Vacuums don't do anything, since they aren't really anything, but the absence of stuff (like cold or black). I don't mind things getting 'sucked' from one place to another, just not by a vacuum, especially not a powerful one, since that's like having 'lots of nothing'. Dischuffed (talk) 07:53, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WP:FILMS B-class assessment

Per a request at WP:FILMS Assessment department, I have reviewed this article to determine if it meets the B-class criteria. Looking over the article there are various tags that need to be addressed including citation tags, a merge tag, wikify tag, and expansion tag. The merge tag and expansion tags can be allowed for B-class, but the citations and wikify tags need to be addressed. In addition, I don't think that there should be a mention of every single special feature on every disc of the DVD. Instead, mention the best ones and convert it to prose. I'd also recommend going through and giving the article a copyedit. Once these issues have been addressed, please renominate. Let me know if you have any questions. Happy editing! --Nehrams2020 (talk) 02:03, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Alien 3 section

"Due to studio changes to the second movie, Aliens, Sigourney Weaver was not interested in returning to the series" What studio changes ? These aren't expanded upon, or mentioned in the 'Aliens' entry, and they have no external reference. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.61.0.162 (talk • contribs) 13:35, 8 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Canon/Continuity?

Is there an reference to what is considered canon to the main series? For example, Alien: Newts Tale would fit into the overall scope very wll, but only if officially considered to be canon to the established continuity (main four films). --RedKnight (talk) 15:45, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately the Alien franchise does not have an organized, officially established canon in the way that the Star Wars franchise does (see Star Wars canon). As a result, there have been inconsistencies over the years between some of the different media. For example, there were comic book series (Aliens: Outbreak and Nightmare Asylum, I believe) made after the release of Aliens which depicted the further adventures of Hicks and Newt years after the events of the film. However, in Alien 3 the Hicks and Newt characters were killed off while in cryostasis during the first few minutes of the movie. This completely contradicted the comic book story. Since this is originally a film franchise, and all of the other media (comics, games, etc.) are spin-offs of the films, the films are considered the primary canon (and it's worth noting that the canon between the films themselves is consistent; there's virtually nothing in any of the films that contradicts or conflicts with any plot points from the previous films). So for reprints of the post-Aliens comic book, the names of the characters were changed (to Wilks and Billie, respectively) so that the story wouldn't conflict as much with the film franchise. There were also comics made depicting the further adventures of Ripley after Aliens, but of course she died on Fiorina 161 during the eents of Alien 3 so these are not "canon" to the film series. To make a long story short, no there is no official canon that allows us to fit the stories of the comics in with the films, or the games with the films, etc., and being an encyclopedia it's not our place to try to synthesize these stories anyway. --IllaZilla (talk) 16:07, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well explained, thank you. From my point of view I beleive that I will consider anything not on film "outside" main canon, or within an alternate reality or continuity. The challenge then is to determine which other media (comic books specifically) are consistant within a single continuity or not. The other challenge is to gather all the source material for a complete and adequate review.--RedKnight (talk) 17:04, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
As far as I know, the comics are consistent with each other in much the same way that the films are consistent with each other, it's just that the 2 media aren't necessarily consistent to each other. Pretty much all the comics are published by Dark Horse, so I imagine that the different titles have some sort of interrelation at least to making sure that their stories don't contradict one another. The approach that the Alien WikiProject (which I confess is a very small project) has used thus far is to treat each form of media separately, as its own continuity. --IllaZilla (talk) 18:13, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
There is an Alien wiki? The only one I was able to find was this one: [1], which is xenomprphic in general--RedKnight (talk) 23:26, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No, not a wiki, a WikiProject: a group of Wikipedia editors working towards the common goal of improving Alien-related articles. It can be found at Wikipedia:WikiProject Alien. --IllaZilla (talk) 23:34, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Zeta Reticuli

Ridley Scotts states in this article [2] that the prequel is set on "a planet called Zeta Reticuli". Changing the article to say "A planetoid in the system of Zeta Reticuli", or something similar, is original research. Scott knows better about this film than any of us, maybe he has made a mistake, maybe he has decided that a planet will take the name of the system, only he knows, and until we have a reliable source stating anything different we have assume that it is the planet name. magnius (talk) 21:56, 28 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Prequels: Budget/Rating

FYI, but I don't think it should be included in the article (yet): http://www.scriptflags.com/2010/09/alien-prequel-stalls-as-ridley-scott.html Ridley Scott allegedly wants 250 million and an R-/18-rating, while Fox wants to spend less and go for PG13 (US/15 (UK). But we shouldn't trust this publication: There's no author named for the article, no source for the information. But nevertheless I wanted to add it here for possible future reference, just in case it turns out to be true. —95.88.23.26 (talk) 11:06, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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