User talk:John of Reading

Keep deleting content on Creekland Middle School

Why do you keep deleting most of the material me and my teacher made on the Creekland Middle School article?

I understand now that I can't put the criminal thing on the article, but I don't know why the rest of the stuff had to be removed. You even took off the Creekland logo that my teacher worked HARD to upload. I'm kind of new here, so I need a bit of help.

Please reply back ASAP.

Sincerely, Jaiman1998 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaiman1998 (talk • contribs) 12:46, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Creekland Middle School, Cherokee County, Georgia (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

There are two issues, and both are important for legal reasons.

One is that you are copying material directly from the school website, which is contrary to the Wikipedia rules on copyright violation. One way round this is described here, but your school authorities will have to agree to it. A simpler and better way is to re-write the copied text in your own words. This will be better, because what is suitable for a school website may not be best for an encyclopedia - see the guidelines at WP:TONE and WP:NPOV.

The second is that you added text naming two teachers and claiming that they had committed certain criminal acts. The Wikipedia rules for writing about living people say that such text must be backed up with references to reliable sources such as newspaper reports. Without this rule, anyone could post anything about anyone - and this could cause hurt and lead to lawsuits.

I admit that I didn't notice the addition of the logo, and I have restored it. My apologies!

Your teacher might like to look at Wikipedia:School and university projects. -- John of Reading (talk) 14:46, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Ok, thanks! ;)

Jaiman1998

orphan tag on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darren_LaCroix

Darren LaCroix (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Hi John. I added more links to the page (see subject line). Could you please take a look and let me know if it's enough to remove the tag or how else I can improve the article. Thank you for the feedback! Google Child (talk) 06:50, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

The "orphan" tag refers to links from other Wikipedia articles to this one. This has not been addressed, so the tag will have to stay. I have removed some of the web-page links, since that form of linking is contrary to the guidelines.

Now that I've read the text, I've tagged the article with "peacock" and tagged several statements as needing a source. See reliable sourcing and independing sourcing for more on this. The article currently reads like a CV or an advert for his books and services, not like an encyclopedia article. (I didn't read the whole article before, it was just one of many that I was scanning with a semi-automated tool) -- John of Reading (talk) 08:04, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

No I didn't, I tagged it with "tone". Same idea though. -- John of Reading (talk) 09:08, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

John, thank you for the feedback. I added links where you put citations needed and looked through the style a bit. Could you please take a look and let me know how it looks now. (sorry replying you with new section, couldn't find how to respond on original message) Thank you. Google Child (talk) 05:22, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Yes, that's an improvement. I suggest you post at Requests for feedback to get an opinion from an experienced reviewer - I mostly fix typos. For example, I'm not convinced that any of the links in the "External links" section pass the guidelines at WP:EL. (To edit a talk page section without adding a section, use the "Edit" link to the right of the section heading). -- John of Reading (talk) 06:57, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Thank you John! Google Child (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 04:18, 5 November 2010 (UTC).

in in 18*

I see you were working "in in" with dates today. I couldn't figure out how to get AWB to make a list for me. How'd you do that? -- LilHelpa (talk) 02:21, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Nothing clever, I'm afraid. That was a Google search for "in in 1800" then "in in 1801", all the way up to 1899. Earlier I covered 1900 to 2015. It was only four or five keystrokes to get from one year to the next, so it wasn't too bad.

Here's the main regexp for the false positives, btw:

(batted|brought|called|came|coming|compete|competed|fenced|filled|filling|gave|involved|joined|jumped|lived|marched|move|moved|moving|participated|phased|sent|starred|stepped|swearing|sworn|traded|turned|turning|voted)\s+in\s+in\s+(early|late|Jan|Feb|Mar|Apr|May|Jun|Jul|Aug|Sep|Oct|Nov|Dec|18|19|20|the spring|the summer|the autumn|the winter)

-- John of Reading (talk) 06:17, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Damn. That's some serious Googling. I am really feeling humbled. And old. I can't seem to grok the "new trick" of using regexp, except in the slightest ways. You use that to exclude those from the Google search? What a great thing.

Back later with the baddest barnstar I can find. --LilHelpa (talk) 11:10, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Award - my first given

		The Typo Team Medal
		Whereas you have continued to make steadfast, effective attacks against typos in a thoughtful, thorough way while displaying the finest ideals of Wikipedia in your conduct. I am inspired to raise my head from the battle and yield to you my first graphic award. --LilHelpa (talk) 11:31, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

.

Bless you, that means a lot.

Responding to your previous post: I didn't manage to exclude them from the search, I only managed to skip them efficently. I've stuck a copy of my AWB settings in my Sandbox if you'd like to have a look - to make sense of them, click "Edit" to grab the XML, save in a local file, and tell AWB to open it. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:36, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Wow. That is really a powerful tool. Thanks! --LilHelpa (talk) 16:15, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Jackaroo

Thank you for contacting me about this article. Where should we discuss this? On your talk page or mine?

As I am clearly a new editor and you appear to have had a lot of experience, I suggest we use your page, because other visitors to your talk page may find any discussion useful. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jack Greenmaven (talk • contribs) 21:28, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

OK, let's try here.

On reflection, here's a third option: write your new page as a user-space draft at User:Jack Greenmaven/Jackaroo (trainee). This can be a single-purpose page that doesn't have to mention the vehicles, books and films. When you think it looks ready, post at Requests for feedback to have it reviewed, and then your page could be moved to Jackaroo (trainee), replacing the existing redirect page.

How does that sound? Would you mind if I repaired the Jackaroo page now? -- John of Reading (talk) 21:40, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

OK. Repair the page Greenmaven (talk) 21:52, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for this suggestion John of Reading (England?), which I will follow. I was not sure how to handle the disambiguation issue.Greenmaven (talk) 22:13, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Yes, England - perhaps I should add that to my user page. And it's goodnight from me, UK time! -- John of Reading (talk) 22:21, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Could we now communicate on my talk pages, please, as your talk page is fairly lengthy?

I have done some work on my proposed article on Jackeroo in my own user space. I assume you (and everyone?) can access this page. /Jackaroo Draft. I got interested in the etymology of the word (still unfinished and clunky), and I now believe this belongs more properly in Wictionary, with a link to it from the Wikipedia article. Please give me your advice, and run your eye over the rest of the article. I have images but I need to explore copyright issues. I have access to a wealth of sources, and I feel quite motivated to write a comprehensive article. Greenmaven (talk) 23:59, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

User:Jack Greenmaven/Jackaroo Draft

the the

I was still puzzled at the size of the discrepancy - and while the main factor is non-mainspace pages, there are about 4,000 that are false positives... due to the last edit summary being "the the -> the using AWB"... Rich Farmbrough, 14:22, 12 November 2010 (UTC).

Tee hee. -- John of Reading (talk) 14:41, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

I'm poaching from your sandbox. It's probably not cool, but at least I decided to tell you :) I'm working downward from TS King Edward. --LilHelpa (talk) 23:46, 15 November 2010 (UTC) Working the sorted list up from Z instead -LilHelpa (talk) 01:15, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Since I have ticked "skip if there are no changes", it would have been a pleasant surprise to see the last 500 articles disappear without warning! -- John of Reading (talk) 08:48, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Reduced images

Thanks for your help! Pais (talk) 10:46, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

I've learnt something new today! -- John of Reading (talk) 10:48, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

THANK YOU

thankyou for clearing up a previous question of mine the reason i did this was to get a laugh with a friend but what i wrote was against the rules thankyou for clearing this up. 58.170.37.145 (talk) 10:24, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Glad to have helped. -- John of Reading (talk) 10:39, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

Many thanks for finding the missing > in Francesca LeBrun! It took me a long time.Ganellia (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:30, 20 November 2010 (UTC).

Always glad to help! If an error makes text disappear, the trick is to look at the tags just after the text that is still visible. -- John of Reading (talk) 18:34, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

New Mexico State Penitentiary riot

I notice that you changed the edit I made years ago. I watched the Timewatch programme and I remember what I heard and saw because the descriptions of depravity and cruelty have lasted with me for a long time. I notice that you react without hesitation to a person who purports to be from the New Mexico State police because they object to something that does not make their organisation look good. Who are they? Where are their credentials? They show their own POV i.e. they don't like it and you go along with it. The police sat back and let the evil men carve up the weak and vulnerable. The guy who made these assertions on the programme had to wipe tears from his eye because of guilt. A version of what happened is all here... in this book (bottom of page 100). The state police could see the inmates inside but did not act. The ex sniper was just telling it how it was. And you deleted it. Took me all of a minute to find the evidence to support what I heard even though I cannot find the exact link to show.

And you deleted it because someone (with a purported authority) didn't like what it implies. The alleged ex cop also admits they were only there after the fact? How did they know? They don't? And you don't? Because it's quite clear they carved people up with blowtorches there are even academic articles on the subject.

I have no need for self importance to be an editor, a big cheese etc all I am interested in is information. You should take this an edifying experience. I have proven my case but do you have the balls to change/revert my edit? Don't worry I won't because I take no pleasure from this, it's not about feeling superior it's about being right. I have verified that someone saw the incidents and that person who I know to be a State trooper said it all in an interview on a TV show back in the 90s. The person who doesn't like it should prove now how that is wrong! Besides considering the entire prison was surrounded by the police (or even the National Guard), who else is likely to been watching the cell blocks intently except the authorities. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.155.77.90 (talk) 01:49, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

No, absolutely not. I removed the words "a former State Police marksman" only because they were not backed up by a link to a reliable source; as it says at the top of the article, "Unsourced material may be challenged and removed". Is the Timewatch program or its transcript available anywhere? If you can provide a full source for the quote, please add it to the article; and if the source shows that it was written by a former police marksman please put those words back too. Or, if you have other sources that demonstrate that a "State Police marksman" was present, feel free to add that information to the article. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:23, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Cardiac output

Cardiac output (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) I might be a little lost now as this seems to have something to do with grammar school and not Cardiac output. I only intended to delete the current version of flotrac and replace it with an updated version of which I have only been able to see a portion therefore I am not sure that occurred . I would love an editor to look at my article and offer suggestions . this is my first attempt. sincerely WMcGee (talk) 20:55, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

I've restored the section that went missing. I'm not sure that I can comment on the paragraph; it needs an expert in the subject, I think. -- John of Reading (talk) 21:14, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

"Thanks–—For The Hiero Code!" plus an enlarged dye sample mystery

What you provided at the Tahash talk page is what I wish I had known at the beginning, but I'm new to Wiki. Your help is really appreciated. I'm simply going to "plagerize" the work you did, just to get the great-looking table you constructed onto the article page. Then I'll study the method. To answer your speculation, I'm not aware that I used the enlarge feature during the Egyptian edits, unless the fact that I enlarged the page in a different place and at a different time (to make sure I got the Arabic characters that matched those provided at the English-Arabic dictionary) is the cause.

Just a few moments ago, after checking out your comment on the talk page and going back to the article, I noticed that the sample image of the indigo dye in the Addax section was much larger (the frame was not). It's a distinct improvement, but no entry for it appears in "view history". Any idea what did it? I haven't been using the enlarge function today. It just occurred to me that the 24-hour wait might apply, allowing whatever glitch that causes these things to revert back. I think now that if I'd left the original misalignment alone that it would have resolved itself later (and saved me a headache), just as my attempt to shorten the lengthened line later resulted in a short misalignment that I had to "undo". Appreciate your support! --Michael Paul Heart (talk) 23:32, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

I wouldn't have been able to write that formatting from scratch, I just noticed that the symbols at Help:WikiHiero syntax were nicely aligned and wondered how it was done. And, of course, it's not plagiarism to copy the text from the talk page, since I put it there for you to check and use.

For future glitches in the image formatting, I suggest you bypass your cache and purge the page before trying to correct anything. Sometimes those steps will fix the problem for you. -- John of Reading (talk) 09:34, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Appreciate the suggestions. The larger image of the dye sample turned out to be a coincidence and had nothing to do with the issue I asked about. It was apparently enlarged at the accessible source as an improvement, and the link at Tahash simply took the new version. It hadn't occurred to me to check the source of a linked and retrieved image, but it will occur to me from now on. Hoo-Rah! You guys are good! Stay safe. --Michael Paul Heart (talk) 13:39, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Old Perth Technical School

Hi, I think there were some flaws in your 25 November edit here which I have amended and would like you to check, please. Cheers, Bjenks (talk) 14:27, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

This morning I was working through a long list of articles containing the text "in April 15", "in April 16" and so on, and changing most of them to say "on" instead. That's all I did to the Old Perth Technical School article, and I think it was a correct fix. I didn't read the whole paragraph. If you look at my contributions you'll get the idea. -- John of Reading (talk) 15:15, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Aha. Sorry, I didn't look back further but now I see that the number error (2117 instead of 2116) was there earlier. 2117 is the next-door Old Perth Boys School building. Someone also failed to change the tense of "is listed" to "was listed on...". Cheers Bjenks (talk) 16:25, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

tables

wow, thank you, that's what I have searched :).-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 13:19, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Village cricket

Hello John, could you take look at Village cricket please. Particularly the insertion of the word 'cement'. This appears to be vandalism that would be easy to fix. However the whole tenor of the article relates to 'village cricket in England', and the person who is altering this page seems to have an agenda to write an article on 'village cricket in India', to which I have no objection. But I think it needs an article of its own if he proceeds. And perhaps a User Id if he wants to be a serious contributer? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jack Greenmaven (talk • contribs) 03:15, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

I've reverted the edits - shame about the typo in my edit summary, though. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:37, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! Lets see if I can remember to sign this time... --Greenmaven (talk) 12:03, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

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