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USB or AM?

Good article. However in my experience of monitoring UVB-76 for several years it always uses full carrier dual side band ( Amplitude modulation) for broadcasting not upper side band (USB).

This is what I heard in a forum

If you guys haven't heard, the once thought Numbers Station UVB-76 ("The Buzzer" or "Boat Horn"), has been solved. It's a center for ionosphere research measuring doppler shifts of a continuously transmitted signal. It's broadcast on 4.625Mhz in the shortwave band. The following link has a Russian science "log" with the carrier frequency being 4.625Mhz for ionosphere research.

http://elpub.wdcb.ru/journals/rjes/v10/2007ES000227/2.shtml


If this is the case, why has the station been broadcasting since 1982, and why are Russian Military transmissions broadcast? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.141.215.221 (talk) 18:35, 21 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

MDZhB Transmissions Ect

Lately, we've been trying to edit some things in, but they keep being deleted. UVB-76 is NOT being killed by pirates currently, these are legitimate transmissions, have a look on streams, videos, ect. These are continuously deleted. Can we please keep these on there? I don't know how we can cite it, due to not many legitimate news sources knowing about it, ect. Thanks! PresentedIn4D (talk) 22:24, 20 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, if that information is not discussed in reliable sources, then we cannot add it to the article. SilverserenC 22:32, 20 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand you. Did professional radio amateurs + radio groups + many blogs + recordings + reports + study pages (like that or that) didn't sum to be reliable source? That's just trolling. 89.76.176.180 (talk) 21:58, 22 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

And I'm somehow supposed to give money to Wikipedia when you have this kind of nonsense politics? Dream on! 174.112.107.152 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 01:50, 23 November 2010 (UTC).[reply]

Mmmm politics? I'm sure you must be referring to something other than the topic at hand. PresentedIn4D (talk) 19:47, 23 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I am aware, however, we have various listeners all around Europe, who all have the same reception reports as to contents of broadcasts. I don't know what you mean by reliable source when it is reported and confirmed by multiple avid listeners. PresentedIn4D (talk) 20:09, 22 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

WP:V states that reliable sources are required only when the information is likely to be challenged. That said, I don't see any legitimate reason why anyone would challenge the validity of these amateur websites as far as the actual recordings go. LokiiT (talk) 00:34, 28 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have added something of MDZhB, citing the Numbers and Oddities newsletter. Check it out, the october and november newsletters. They have interesting info. PresentedIn4D (talk) 13:32, 7 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

December 2 2010 14:44:00 UTC voice message

December 2 2010 14:43:00 UTC: MDZhB MDZhB 39 351 Pavel Roman Elena Gregory Roman Anna Dmitriy Anna 80 18 06 57 should be available at the archives soon http://uvb-76.blogspot.com/p/test.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.77.231.201 (talk) 14:57, 2 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Messages

We need reliable sources for any messages. Personal websites are largely not acceptable. The recordings that have been linked to aren't acceptable either since anyone could post an audio file on the net and say it is UVB-76. Adambro (talk) 18:46, 11 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Can we source Numbers and Oddities? They are very reliable. Also, it is NOT UVB-76 anymore. That callsign has been changed due to the new Western Strategic Command in Russia. It has been changed to MDZhB.PresentedIn4D (talk) 19:38, 11 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know what you really consider as reliable source, if you link to old Jan Michalski's geocities page, which contains A LOT of speculations and UNCONFIRMED INFO. 89.76.176.180 (talk) 19:47, 11 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Just to clarify, the removal of some content on the basis of it being unsourced/poorly sourced isn't an endorsement of the other sources. I don't doubt there are other sources that shouldn't be considered particularly reliable and therefore content which is based upon those sources should be removed. On the general issue of sourcing for this article, that UVB-76 may be a secret radio station of some description doesn't mean we lower our requirements for information to be properly sourced. Where appropriate sourcing is difficult/impossible we either have a brief article which covers the basics for which there are reliable sources or we simply don't have an article. Adambro (talk) 21:08, 11 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm. I understand what you say, but also the changes of the station have not been talked about, such as the callsign change, the tone changes recently, ect. All the info here seems to be outdated by 2 years or so. PresentedIn4D (talk) 21:22, 11 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
That whole list of UVB-76 messages was translated from cyrillic from Russian Wikipedia, additionaly they are on old geocities page in Russian version. What you confirm from geocities page? Radio center: 143 (only known source is November 3, 2001 conversation), Military unit: 44684 (there aren't ANY sources saying that, + this is outdated like whole page). This page is often first page where enters person who want to know what is UVB-76. You want donations for something with politics like that? No way. BTW: WP:IAR. 89.76.176.180 (talk) 07:40, 12 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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