Talk:Gold Digger (Kanye West song)

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Song Content portion very well done

I'm not saying it's all true, indeed there is a tag saying it might rely on unreferenced, self-researched claims, but it does appear to be very well done, and did a good job at explaining what some of the phrases of the song mean which I was looking for.68.3.214.66 (talk) 21:10, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I failed to find one primary contributer to that portion of the article, so I might as well say it here: That break-down of the lyrics is hilarious. --Adamrush (talk) 14:54, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, it was fantastic writing, as well as accurately describing the song lyrics. So what happened to this bit of genius?!?!? 65.111.99.192 (talk) 23:52, 11 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Complaint

I'm just curious if anyone else finds a lot of these "singles" pages (especially this one) full of opinions/commentary and POV, besides me? From what source are the "high expectations" for this single's performance taken? Who stated that the first single from the album was a disappointment? Many times record companies release a teaser-single before an album's release to an artists' core fan base (in this case hip-hop/R&B) to build hype... not necessarily for huge chart performance. On what is the statement about "all albums having to face the sophmore slump" based? Who was expecting the song to be pushed into the Top 10 after West's VMA performance? His record company? MTV? Radio? Using phrases like "skyrocketed like nobody's business" isn't encyclopedic language at all. Shouldn't the part about Mariah Carey's near-miss self-replacement-at-#1 be on the page for "We Belong Together"?

Seems to me articles describing singles should contain the basics: title, artist, featured artists (if any), producer, songwriter, album... along with chart positions, perhaps some background history on the creation of the song , total sales/downloads and, if any, significant achievements (for example mentioning that the song jumped from #19 to #1).

The first half of this article is great. I don't want to just swoop in and rewite it, as someone obviously worked hard on the article, but this doesn't read like an encyclopedia to me. I'm not trying to be an asshole, I'm just wondering if anyone else has an opinion on this. Am I being too critical? -- eo 04:00, 8 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I think you might be too critical. To answer your questions, the first single was a full single and not a teaser. And "sophmore slump" is a very common term used in the music industry. Some links [1], [2]. Chart analysts were expecting the song to go Top 10 due to his high downloads. The part about Mariah's near replacement is important and is mentioned in all articles (because that is a very unusual jump). Anyway, I got your point though, so I'm going to change some things hopefully to make things more clear. OmegaWikipedia 04:36, 8 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

eo, your criticisms are very reasonable, and the article has been cleaned up as a result. --FuriousFreddy 01:33, 24 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

There's no consistency generally in the singles articles. They are full of pedantry and have been over-written by fans who think that anything they take from the song must necessarily be one of its general qualities.

Why, for instance, is the section on song content longer than the lyrics to the actual song? That could literally be narrowed down to one paragraph. This kind of material:

This reflects a common sentiment among male divorcees considering alimony and child support as little more than money-siphons. The feeling is exacerbated because the gold digger doesn't use the money to take care of the child.

Is the kind of rambling nonsense I'm talking about. In many cases Wikipedia has become, and will in all likelihood remain, a soap box for users who like to play at literary analysis but aren't prepared to undertake the necessary research to actually look for proper evidence or sources, from which proper encyclopedic content is drawn. 90.199.10.41 10:44, 21 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Speculation

Quote from provided source:

" The speculation that Mariah Carey's "Shake It Off" (Island) would advance to No. 1 on The Billboard Hot 100 came to naught".

We don't report speculation or suppositions. Will reword. --FuriousFreddy 06:24, 24 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Possible wrong info

For the type of person decribed in this song, see Age disparity in sexual relationships. In the song, Kanye is describing a gold digger, which is, a woman, who is using him for his money, age disparity is were one of the people are young and the other is old, right?

Yes, but he also isnt saying shes a gold digger, just that she "aint messin with no broke niggas". --Shawn88 11:23, 31 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Exactly, she ain't messin with no 'broke niggas, how is that saying she's dating a younger guy??
Well, then someone should get rid of the link to 'age disparity in relationships', I'm going to do that now, if someone brings it back then tell me why being broke means youre dating some younger...
"Now I ain't sayin' she a gold digger" is an example of irony. Keep the age disparity lyrics!

Just how good is Foxx?

I am currently in need of absolute, irrefutable proof regarding whether Ray Charles is or is not sampled in the repeated chorus of "She give me money." Some say it is Charles' own voice, some say it is Foxx. Must know.

Its a Ray Charles vocal sample. I'm 100% sure of it. The article even mentions it. --Shawn88 20:12, 31 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

John Legend?

I think he does a cameo in the video clip, or does he also provide vocals?

Where can Kanye West's Golddigger, Queen City remix song be found? I heard the version around Cincinnati.

Queen City remix

witness site to my claim: www.myspace.com/MySpace Profile - CINCINNATI, Ohio, US, ... hey i heard this remix version of golddigger about the nati like the eastside and ...

can anyone find or provide the actual song background information?

Note: I moved the above inquiry here from the article space. Cheers! BD2412 T 17:55, 16 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mind of Mencia parody

Should someone mention that there was a parody on the show Mind of Mencia of Gold Digger? If you are oblivious here is the link for the video... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDk5abikUeo (WARNING: Strong Language) It's called "Kanye West is a Crazy Nigga"

BurningAfterTheDawn 20:56, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Tigger Parody

There was an internet meme that replaced the chorus as follows: "now I aint sayin she a gold digger/ but she aint messin with no broke Tigger", in reference to the Winnie the Pooh character. The accompanying imagery depicted Tigger dressed like he was from the ghetto, wearing a jersey, baggy pants, sneakers, and sunglasses, standing next to an attractive scantily clad woman.

Gold Digger Chorus

In Goldigger, what does he say in the beginning of the chorus? She take my money, she did me wrong or she give me money?- SCB '92 12:20, 8 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Shark Tale

is this the same song from Shark Tale? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.15.164.253 (talk) 20:31, 8 May 2007 (UTC).[reply]

strange description

in the introductory paragraph it states, "It is inarguably his most commercially successful and signature song, most recognizable for its innovative time signatures, ..."

i don't understand. how is 4/4 throughout an innovative time signature? i mean, in the singing at the beginning the rhythm is a little loose, but i wouldn't go as far to say that has anything to do with its time signature.

Harmony krieg 14:34, 24 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ray Charles vs. Lee Fields/Martin Solveig

The arrangement of this song is clearly based on the Lee Fields/Martin Solveig version of "I Got a Woman" (I don't know how to document this, you would have to listen for yourself). Shouldn't that be in the article somewhere?

69.109.222.155 (talk) 20:04, 9 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Performance at The Brits 2006

West gave what was the performance of the night when he performed Gold Digger accompanied by 77 gold painted models who strutted across the stage. It made quite a big splash in the UK! [3] [4] [5] [6]. Also 'Not content to rest on his laurels, West performed a huge spectacular version of 'Gold Digger' at the 2006 Brit awards, with hundreds of dancers behind him' from [7]. Is this worth a mention in the article? 86.150.102.220 (talk) 16:28, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds copied...

It sounds like this article has been copied from a music review site, as such a plain single could never be this large in size. 98.226.32.129 (talk) 00:07, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Early version?

In a performance in 2004, he performed a piece entitled "18 years" on Def Poetry that is almost completely from the second verse, with the exception of the last two lines. I'm not sure if this was done before or after recording and whatnot, but just thought I'd throw it out there, since it's possibly the first time he performed even a piece of it, outside the recording. video from Def poetry: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIwspT--Ydo lyrics to Gold Digger: Rochelle CMN (talk) 08:49, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]