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It would be nice to put a video or something like that

I was thinking that it would be nice to put a video cause seeing what it looks like would help to understand. There's this one on You-tube: [1] I can't say that I'm into ska alot (but I try to learn more about this good music) but I can say that on this video it's skanking. I dunno how putting videos on wikipedia there's too much conditions, categories (faire use and etc) and rules and I don't want to "waste my time" reading them (I'm spanish and my english isn't good enough to read it fast and it would be very boring so... If could read a résumé yeah but THIS...no!) And if someone has a better video or think this one is sh**...maybe you can help. Instead or in addition of it, we can put a photography too...I suppose that some videoclips of ska bands features good skanking too. I saw some Madness (they're a f***ing great band) concerts videos and there's skanking but images are too dark. So if someone can help it would be cool!

It's the best example of skanking I've seen online--despite their being in a hotel (?) lobby and wearing fuzzy slippers! I'm going to go ahead and put a external link to it in. --TK

  • I deleted that video because it is not representative of skanking. That only shows the goofy third wave punk version of skanking. It would be more appropriate to first have a video from the 1960s, and then the newer one could be re-added for comparison.Spylab 14:10, 3 September 2006 (UTC)Spylab[reply]
Third Wave skanking is a newer style but it is still considered skanking. Perhaps we should talk about the different types. (75.53.202.247 (talk) 07:56, 10 January 2011 (UTC))[reply]
Yeah but where we'll find it? Don't you have a webcam? If so, you could recording yourself skanking, no? Do you know good video clips where there's skanking? Other suggestions?

Skanking going on here, or just speak to julie about it -unsigned

  • I haven't looked at the link, but in general, videos aren't used as references in Wikipedia articles. Topics on Wikipedia are supposed to be decribed using words, not movies. Spylab 14:09, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know if we're this desperate yet but I can take some pictures of my self doing some of the different kinds of skanks. If we could clarify exactly what kind of dance we need to demonstrate (I assume the thirdwave variation) I can put together either a frame by frame animation or just a picture giving the general gist of it. Anyone got any input? Glassbreaker5791 23:22, 30 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    • You have good ideas...... And I think that we're desperate...at least, I am, when I see all those polemics about if we should put images in fair use (see wikipedia in french), if this image is fair use or not, if we should put a video or not, etc... (wikipedia annoys me sometimes) If you can put pictures of yourself, I think that you should do it. However, I'm not sure that the thirdwave style of skanking is kind of dance we should demonstrate. Why not something more traditional? I know that skacore is the most popular kind of ska among the scene, but why not showing the basis of skanking? (If somebody remembers what it was) Like, It began with this style and after it was this one and after this one...But if we choose the thirdwave variation (because it's THE style of the moment) we should instead of it, discribe clearly in details differences between all the kind of skanking. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.15.212.224 (talk) 15:47, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sources

i realize there's a need for sources, but for underground street dancing, sources just don't tend to be readily available. the best source is video, and yet some wikipedians make it their personal crusade to remove youtube links which give examples of the dance. this needs to change. --24.214.236.85 15:16, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • In general, videos aren't used as references in Wikipedia articles. Topics on Wikipedia are supposed to be decribed using words, not movies. Spylab 14:15, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • What is it about movies that makes them a less valid source than photos, which wikipedia abounds with? An image is ok but as soon as there's a few of them playing in order, it's off limits? 121.45.179.25 18:01, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Also, if the issue is the video, why did you originally remove a video because it showed the 'wrong' type of skanking? Surely the real issue was that it was a video? 121.45.179.25 18:05, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with them...In my opinion, the better way to show something like steps of dance is a video OR a set of pictures, that shows all the movements one by one, image after an other one. And this would be long...I think that making a video would be easier. And why not? There is some articles whith music, why not with videos? And wikipedia's articles must be discribed by words? Fine, so let's do it too. Why not writing about, first skanking in general, whitout distinction between skanking in third wave ska, hardcore, traditional ska and whatever. And after, explaning in details differences, specifications, etc. of all these "styles" of skanking. And if we can't put a video, we should instead of it put images...I don't care, but take a decision —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.15.212.224 (talk) 15:02, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

multiple ways

since there are a myriad of ways to skank, itd be nice to either have a more general description of the dance or to offer multiple common versions. thus far the article offers the very common thirdwave skank but does not exactly describe any of its predecessors. most definitions i've seen for the word have often included the phrase "a palms-up dance". it should also be noted that two stepping is indeed a very different dance and not merely another word for skanking. Glassbreaker5791 19:31, 21 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Walt Jabsco

Would it make any sense to try to find a legal picture of walt jabsco skanking? It's not exactly representative of the dance as a whole but its a pretty common picture associated with dance and its better than nothing. Glassbreaker5791 20:58, 30 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • I'm not sure that it's a good idea. Like you said, "It's not exactly representative of the dance". According to me, Walt Jabsco represents 2-tones and The Specials. And yeah it's true, it's a "classic picture" in ska, now. But this picture would be more appropriate in an article about 2-tone or The Specials (where it is explained that Walt Jabsco is a fictional guy based on a photo of Peter Tosh) This would be its right place. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.15.212.224 (talk) 14:42, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"The skank"

I recall reading the phrase "the skank" somewhere, as in "doing the skank". Does anyone know if people actually said/say that, as opposed to "skanking"?

Also, why is "striking out" in italics? 71.90.131.109 (talk) 05:12, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

i've never heard of it as a dance - i know it as pulling someone's trousers down unexpectedly. Machete97 (talk) 14:45, 11 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Skank - Example on YouTube

On a recent sentimental tour of YouTube I looked up a video of Johnny Nash singing "Hold Me Tight" from 1968, which I had never seen performed at the time and hadn't heard since. Someone commented on the odd dancing of the three girls in the background, to which someone else replied (with some exasperation at the misunderstanding) that they were "skanking". If this is correct, then it is a good example and worth looking at, and very entertaining either way. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Intererested Party (talkcontribs) 10:57, 5 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • The Johnny Nash video is currently here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYhRpbqe1Zg. Not sure I would classify that dance as skanking. Entertaining though. The problem with using YouTube videos as references is that at any time, all links could be broken as YouTube is the scene of constant copyright infringement battles and issues; especially music and television-appearance videos. Diagrams and photos might have to be the way to go for dance articles for now. Until someone puts up a permanent ska dance site with legal-use videos for linking purposes. --Utilizer (talk) 05:20, 9 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

How about the logo of the band D.R.I.? Hanz ofbyotch (talk) 23:56, 16 December 2008 (UTC) what about it?[reply]