Talk:List of Harrier family losses

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1960s

1 Apil 1965: A Tripartite Evaluation Squadron Kestrel FGA1 caught fire on take-off at RAF West Raynham.

21 September 1967: A Tripartite Evaluation Squadron Kestrel FGA1 (XS693) was abandoned 2 miles fom Boscombe Down.

27 January 1969: A RAF GR3 (XV743) was abandoned over Dunsfold Aerodrome.

1973

26 April 1972: A RAF GR1 (XV749) abandoned over sea off Lincolnshie following bird strike.

6 September 1973: A RAF GR3 (XV750) abandoned over Germany after engine cut.

24 September 1973: A RAF GR1 (XV739) of 1 Squadron was abandoned over Cyprus.

19 January 1976: Two RAF GR3(XV745 and XV754) collided and crashed in Cheshire, England.

12 March 1976: A RAF GR3 (XV746) flew into mountain in Norway.

21 September 1979: Two RAF GR3s (XV756 and XZ128) collided over Cambridgeshire.

8 November 1979: A RAF GR3 (XV756) abandoned after being hit by ricochet over Holbeach ranges.

1980s

28 October 1980 : A RAF GR3 (XV761) abandoned over Germany following bird strike.

28 October 1983 : A RAF GR3 (XV742) of 233 Operational Conversion Unit flew into the sea on Holbeach range.

19 November 1983: A RAF GR3 (XV762) flew into high ground in Falkland Islands.

--TheFEARgod (Ч) 11:37, 15 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

My fault I should have put an in-use tag on as I had not finished, a polite request to add refs rather than a revert would perhaps have been better. MilborneOne (talk) 12:11, 15 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The little roundels were just naff and did not really enhance the article just added for decoration and not really the right for an encyclopedia, perhaps it should be brought up at the aircraft project. MilborneOne (talk) 12:15, 15 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The roundels are OK since this very good article uses them: List of C-130 Hercules crashes. It's a good visibility for someone who, for example, looks just for USAF ones.. Please put them back or at least to those where I have added. It was hard work pasting them line-per-line, please have respect for that--TheFEARgod (Ч) 12:21, 15 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I would rather wait the outcome of the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Aircraft#Roundels_and_accidents before adding the roundels back (or not). MilborneOne (talk) 13:05, 15 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Abandoned

I would prefer use of crashed --TheFEARgod (Ч) 12:34, 15 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OK it has a particularly meaning in that the pilot ejected the aircraft and left it to its own devices, but I dont have a problem if you want to change it to make it clearer. MilborneOne (talk) 13:02, 15 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In every abandoned case/event the pilot was OK?--TheFEARgod (Ч) 22:57, 15 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I believe so, but I am not 100% sure may need some more research. MilborneOne (talk) 11:05, 16 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Shot down in the Falklands War

Have there been such events? --TheFEARgod (Ч) 12:34, 15 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dont understand your question - the article makes no mention of a Falklands War. MilborneOne (talk) 13:08, 15 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Have Argentinians shot down any harrier during the war?--TheFEARgod (Ч) 14:08, 15 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OK understood, six Sea Harriers and 4 GR3s were lost I will add details to the aticle later. MilborneOne (talk) 17:08, 15 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"A" or "An" RAF aircraft?

Reading through the list I find it slightly disturbing to read "A RAF ..."; my natural instinct is to use "An RAF ..." in this context. Is it just me? Would anyone object to this change?--TraceyR (talk) 17:03, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Might be better not to use either and just remove the A! MilborneOne (talk) 18:34, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sensible suggestion, that man!--TraceyR (talk) 06:56, 24 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's quite simple. For the full wording it's A Royal Air Force ... and for the abbreviated version it's: An RAF ... It's also the same for the Royal Navy, A Royal Navy ... and again for the full version: An RN ... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.40.250.73 (talk) 20:35, 22 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Reason for USMC losses

According to John Farley (Harrier test pilot) most of the US Harrier losses are due to the USMC allocating Harriers to pilots trained on helicopters. He say that most of the accidents involve them flying into the sides of hills at around 550kt. There's a link to a YouTube video with him speaking about this here; [1] (at around the 4-minute mark). He says that when they first got the Harrier they put their best pilots on them and had no accidents at all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.40.254.27 (talk) 22:40, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Possible copyright problem

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Any shot down other than in the falklands war?

Just to clarify, have any Harriers been lost to hostile fire, other than in the falklands war? 121.217.17.125 (talk) 12:03, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]