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Reference needed[edit]

Hi, you recently added some information to Frederic Austin. Any chance of a reference? Or maybe you want I should revert your unsubstantiated edits, as an IP? That would be quite funny, actually, considering the general tenor of this talk page. >MinorProphet (talk) 22:14, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks MP you are welcome to challenge the edits by either removing or tagging, that said I will get back and add some refs in a mo. MilborneOne (talk) 09:08, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
Sorry about my brusque message, I was falling asleep at the time and realise now that I hadn't read Wikipedia:Etiquette for some time. Thanks for your interest. >MinorProphet (talk) 17:42, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

User:Sam Kanzai Frakfurt[edit]

Some people never learn. He just came off of his one-month block today, and earned a three-month block with just 6 edits. Facepalm3.svg Facepalm - BilCat (talk) 04:19, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

Facepalm3.svg Facepalm MilborneOne (talk) 09:14, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

National Indian Association has been nominated for Did You Know[edit]

HMCS Bonaventure fringe theory again[edit]

Michael, could you semi-protect HMCS Bonaventure (CVL 22) for a few weeks? An IP is adding fringe theories again, and making insults and personal attacks in edit summaries. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 19:49, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

Green tickY MilborneOne (talk) 09:24, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

HAL Tejas[edit]

IP hopper on HAL Tejas edit warring against consensus. Semi-protect please? Thanks - BilCat (talk) 08:06, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Green tickY MilborneOne (talk) 09:25, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Stanley Nomad[edit]

This article has been under attack by an IP for the last few days. I have carefully explained the problem with the edits on the IP's talk page, but he continues to vandalize the article. Can you "semi" it please? - Ahunt (talk) 12:12, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Green tickY Not sure the IP has actually read the article, but we can give them a chance to explain who Mr. Nomad is. MilborneOne (talk) 16:29, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
I know it isn't amusing, but it really is :-P ScrpIronIV 17:24, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
Facepalm3.svg Facepalm Vandalism or lack of competence. Either way, their edits are unconstructive, and they need to be blocked until the clue stick works, if it ever does. Yes, it's funny in the way that stupidity (intentional or not) can be funny, but this isn't Uncyclopedia. - BilCat (talk) 17:54, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the thoughts on this. The IP seems to have gone for now, perhaps they finally read my note to them? - Ahunt (talk) 18:01, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
(edit conflict) We could say that the surname comes first in aircraft articles, following the family-name-first pattern of many East Asian cultures. :) - BilCat (talk) 18:06, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

MH 370[edit]

I did a rollback of the IP, only to be reverted whilst leaving a uw-3rr on their talk page. Will let that one go, but any more shenanigans and its banhammer time. Article may need semi-protection, but it seems to be just the one IP atm. Mjroots (talk) 18:42, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Destination Maps[edit]

Could you provide a link to a disscussion where the consensus reached is to not have destination maps listed? As I am having trouble with 2 users as they continue to add destination maps to Nuuk Airport, Addis Ababa Bole International Airport and Zurich Airport. RMS52 (talk) 09:24, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

RMS52 if you put "Destination Maps" in the talk page search window on the airport talk page you will see a few discussions on the subject. Perhaps in the ongoing discussion on that talk page we need to get a clear agreement to make a definitive statement at Wikipedia:WikiProject Airports/page content about these maps. MilborneOne (talk) 14:10, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

An old "friend"[edit]

Hi MilborneOne. I suspect that obsessive IP that caused great disruption to the B-17, B-24 & B-25 articles is back. The MO is the same, the use of language, the strange inserts into mainspace texts, etc. North American P-51 Mustang variants is his /her new interest. Going under the name NavalWarrior. Can you take a look? Cheers! Irondome (talk) 14:17, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
Thanks Irondome watching for now to see if they come back or cause issues elsewhere. MilborneOne (talk) 15:36, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

EgyptAir Flight 667[edit]

G'day. EgyptAir Flight 667 popped up on my Watchlist yesterday as a newly-created article. The fact that it is on my Watchlist suggests that it is a reincarnation of a deleted article. Are you able to use your powers to see what the situation is? Cheers YSSYguy (talk) 03:02, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

YSSYguy It was deleted as a creation by banned User:Ryan kirkpatrick so probably needs to be proded and/or put up for deletion as not really notable. The new user is probably blocked User:Babestress who has a bit of a fetish for KLM Flight 1673 but just needs a bit more rope. MilborneOne (talk) 15:33, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
I've redirected it to the accidents section of the airline article, let's see how that balloon flies. YSSYguy (talk) 22:11, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

Page protection please[edit]

There's an IP who won't listen at Shot Heard 'Round the World (baseball)....William 11:57, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

FYI the IP has made it to 7RR. Four editors, me included, have reverted him....William 14:34, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

IP has been blocked for 36 hours for edit warring. MilborneOne (talk) 17:23, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
The page needs protection. We have an IP hopper as seen from this edit[1] of last night which was placed after you did the block....William 10:18, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
Green tickY MilborneOne (talk) 11:43, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

Assistance please[edit]

G'day, I am having one of those days; could you please cast your eye over the activites of User:AgustinusHal. If it isn't him, it's some other incompetent boob. I am feeling rather browned off at the moment. Cheers YSSYguy (talk) 12:13, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

I have protected BBJ for now to encourage discussion, still not sure what it all about I will have to check the diffs again! MilborneOne (talk) 12:20, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
I am pretty sure we dont use drawings in articles if the real thing exists as they are really original research and we have no evidence that they reflect the real thing. This user appears to want to add home-made drawings in articles and does have a concept of size! MilborneOne (talk) 12:29, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
The LATAM A320 image is definitely original research, as the actual aircraft colour scheme is being kept secret until next year; see this story for one. I could never be an Admin, I don't have the patience - this guy would have been blocked ages ago if I had my druthers. YSSYguy (talk) 14:51, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

B-24 expert[edit]

Looks like the B-24 expert is back on User:2600:1002:B02C:A89C:CBEA:4CB:FD93:286C - the duck is strong in this one! - - BilCat (talk) 21:19, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

I guess the range block on these IPs has expired. I don't know who put in the range block to contact them to restore it. - BilCat (talk) 14:45, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

It was User:KrakatoaKatie but it looks like she is away on vacation. MilborneOne (talk) 17:23, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
For anybody with an interest in this I have started a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#User:Philm540. MilborneOne (talk) 17:44, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
He's also used User:2600:1002:B024:D58C:7EDB:B88:4DE5:7E13 today to post his usual screeds on Nick T's talk page. He's protesting Nick's reverts on the B-24 and B-25 of another IP address, stating, "I have never used an alternate IP AND YOUR ACCUSATIONAL TO THE CONTRAY ARE FALSE, MISINFORMED AND MALICIOUS", while using an alternate IP address to make the post! Facepalm3.svg Facepalm - BilCat (talk) 17:54, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
This one too: "I have NEVER avoided a block and have so stated this on several occassions". Hilarious. - BilCat (talk) 17:58, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
Perhaps we need to mention the "you not only are abusing your administrative permissions, your dangeriously close to violating my rights as a citizen of nation that signature to international aggreements. I trust you can relate this message to billcat, milborneone and bill zuk with whom you conspire." on the ANI page. It is clearly evidence he has not listened to anything that has been said to him. MilborneOne (talk) 18:01, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
Never mind that I'm not an admin. I suspect a clear lack of competence, given that he does not even realise that in the same post he claims not to be a sock he refers to things that he would only know about if is he was a sock. As Bill put it: Facepalm3.svg Facepalm - Nick Thorne talk 04:30, 12 August 2015 (UTC).

Cub Crafters[edit]

This seems to be unending, can we get this article semi-protected for a bit? - Ahunt (talk) 21:26, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. - Ahunt (talk) 21:08, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
Sorry for the delay I thought they had gone away! MilborneOne (talk) 21:17, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
Apparently not! - Ahunt (talk) 21:44, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

DYK for National Indian Association[edit]

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 04:38, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

The return of Fonte de Regaz...[edit]

He's BAAaack! This time as IP, and disrupting the Royal Malaysian Air Force article again. Same tells, same subject matter. ScrpIronIV 13:30, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks a ton! ScrpIronIV 13:34, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

User talk:AgustinusHal[edit]

This edit to his own userpage seems very odd, and seems like flaunting that he's been blocked on another username. Most of his other edits aren't productive either, especially on others' talk pages. A Checkuser might prove interesting. - BilCat (talk) 02:04, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

User:Cyntiamaspian has some edits on the BBJ page, but I haven't had a chance to compare the edits to see if there's any similarities.- BilCat (talk) 02:57, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
I suspect you are right, just need some duck evidence. MilborneOne (talk) 09:37, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
Found enough evidence for me on User:YSSYguys user page so I have blocked the account, raised an SPI but didnt realise somebody had already opened one yesterday! Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Cyntiamaspian MilborneOne (talk) 10:14, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
I actually wasn't certain they were the same, so thanks for checking it out enough for a duck block. I was headed to bed when I posted, so I didn't have enough time to look deeply myself. It's funny what people think they can get away with, but I guess some are like Ryan K and think it's a game. - BilCat (talk) 11:52, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
  • User:Nrwairport appears to be another one, same harassment of YSSY, and same false claims on user page of being an admin, ,etc. - BilCat (talk)
Certainly strange behaviour from somebody who claims to have had over 500,000 edits in a former account, but I am not seeing enough to prove it one way or the other, I suspect from the way he is starting to annoy others with deletion messages that it will not be long before they upset the wrong people. MilborneOne (talk) 09:55, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
It does appear I'm wrong on that one, the user has claimed they lost their password on the account that has 500,000 edits, and has a better grasp of English than this sock farm. The unprovoked harassment of YSSY is still odd in this case. - BilCat (talk) 19:50, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
User:Nrwairport has been indef blocked for disruptive editing and NOTHERE. The appeal might make interesting reading, assuming the user doesn't just create a new account. - BilCat (talk) 16:11, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
Yup, his appeals and the subsequent discussions wthe.reviewing admins and other editors was very interesting! The end result was a complete indefinite block, per this diff. Btw, the sock investigation proved he wasn't related to the Cyntiamaspian sock farm, but did turn up one sock of his, which oddly only made sandbox edits. Hopefully he will stay away, but I doubt it. - BilCat (talk) 11:19, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
It shows what happens when you dig yourself a big hole, instinct says that if they was here before they have been blocked before. MilborneOne (talk) 11:36, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
Yeah, that was the consensus of the admins/editors on his talk page. The RFA attempt was just plain strange though. I had a look at an article he edited, American Airlines, and there are at least two users who edited that page who were blocked for being disruptive. I didn't try to compare the edits, but I might later. I'll try to watch a few on the other articles he edited, and see if a new user shows up making similar edits. - BilCat (talk)
Just for stalker info User:AyuLestri91 - new account claims to be a Adminstrator and goes straight to the BBJ articles and reverts User:YSSYguy, bagged and tagged and raised at SPI. MilborneOne (talk) 20:56, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
Thanks Mb, the two are clearly the same person - AyuLestri91 has gone out of his way to create a false edit summary, just as Agustinus did with most of his edits. I have been through my edits to the BBJ article, I have been through my User contributions and I did not make an edit with Revision number 676323188 anywhere on WP. This edit to my own Talk page on 16 August is Rev. No. 676314549; this is the next edit I made, eight hours later, Rev. No. 676358042. The edit summary is the work of an experienced User in my opinion. However, AyuLestri91's edit was correct, in that the MMO of a 747 is M0.92 or M.90 depending on the model; but it was Agustinus that changed the figure, in one of his edits on 24 July. I find it all rather bizarre. YSSYguy (talk) 22:18, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

Another blocked user with an interest in Malaysian topics just added a "2" to the user name Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Sam Kanzai Frakfurt ! MilborneOne (talk) 16:58, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

Just for info User:LuHay Tari3 blocked and raised at SPI. MilborneOne (talk) 13:53, 30 August 2015 (UTC)


An attack on aviation articles in an attempt to make me mad and, simultaneously, making Wikipedia content worse. No names left!! abcd (talk) 16:33, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Looks like canvassing, as he's notified Fnlayson too. - BilCat (talk) 22:09, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, it didnt really make much sense so it didnt have the desired effect, whatever that was intended to be. MilborneOne (talk) 22:11, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Talk page already attempted...[edit]

Hello Milborne One! Sorry to disturb You "at home" - but If You take a look at the talk-page of F-35, You can see that I already have tried that. If there is something undue, is it simply due to the fact that I have not been able to find any American or NATO comments. I have searched around, but cannot find more neutral sources than Swedish "Svenska Dagbladet". And also pointed out in the text, that it indeed is Russian and written in propaganda formate. It could be balanced with opposite statements, and be better NPOV in that way. But as I've stated, I can't find US or NATO comments. So, OK the destoyer part is perhaps not importaint regarding the F-35, but isn't really not the Borisoglebsk 2 worth mentioning in this context ? "Svenska Dagbladet" is probably the most reliable Swedish newspaper (And dispite its pysical format is it a morning paper, not a tabloid. Perhaps could I make a shorter version ? Boeing720 (talk) 21:19, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Nothing really to add that has not been said on the talk page by othrs. MilborneOne (talk) 11:45, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

Stephen Lewis[edit]

Regarding the message to talk page of Stephen Lewis, I would mention the Variety Club Award, it is an honour and a very worthy charity. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 06:27, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

OK I will look at adding it at some point, thanks. MilborneOne (talk) 11:48, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

Move of Page[edit]

Apoligies if the removal of Swiss Global Air Lines was incorrect, I assumed that 'Air Lines' should be 'Airlines' RMS52 (talk) 09:13, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

No problem it does look wrong but it is the correct name. MilborneOne (talk) 09:14, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

Ok, thanks! RMS52 (talk) 09:19, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

Airline orders in airline info boxes[edit]


When I am looking at the fleets of airlines I like to have the fleet size along with its orders in the information boxes which is at the top of each article. If they were to be included it would help me a lot and maybe others too. Please think about this.

Thanks, Lukozade123 Lukozade123 (talk) 09:10, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

@Lukozade123: Please refer to Template:Infobox_airline. Also, there is a discussion started at WT:AIRLINE. Please discuss your matter there. Citydude1017 (talk) 15:53, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

USer RMS52[edit]

Is continually refactoring comments I made on his talk page or making deletions[2] of sections of my talk page where he commented. I've warned him not to do this here[3] and referred him to talk page guidelines. He also blanked sections[4] and removed photos and references[5] at Gatwick Airport. He's also made false and misleading edit summaries. This is just one example[ He needs to be blocked to stop his behavior....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 13:27, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

I'm disappointed...[edit]

... that SuperCarnivore591 hasn't slapped an edit war warning on your talk page too! Mjroots (talk) 17:17, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Yes I noticed you were being picked on MilborneOne (talk) 17:17, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
BTW, does the addition of this for a second time, despite being told that the source fails WP:RS, constitute edit warring? Mjroots (talk) 18:11, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
I dont think they added it originally, they did a similar edit to the see also section, probably enough for a message about using the talk page discussion so they understand why things are being challenged. MilborneOne (talk) 18:29, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Balad Air Base[edit]

Good Evening MilborneOne,

Can you please delete Balad Air Base (a redirect) so I can move Joint Base Balad there please? Gavbadger (talk) 18:32, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Green tickY moved. MilborneOne (talk) 18:38, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
Brilliant, thank you! Gavbadger (talk) 18:39, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

List of Airliner Loss Of Control...[edit]

I agree with your comment that this article [[6]] should be deleted. A poorly written article -- probably the worst one I have seen in Wikipedia. Besides its not having the required WP:RS cites, there isn't any important information in it that is not already covered in other Wiki articles. I am curious, why wasn't it deleted? No one objected except the original author who did nothing to address the problems. EditorASC (talk) 08:53, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, if the proposed deletion was removed I should have raised it at WP:Articles for Deletion for discussion, probably just forgot but now you have mentioned it perhaps I will have another look at it. MilborneOne (talk) 10:55, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

Wiki books[edit]

Sorry, don't know what happened there. I pasted your comment across OK. Presently my browser crashed and when I restarted it an edit conflict page had been added to my bookmarks. — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 19:43, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

OK no problem. MilborneOne (talk) 21:57, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

talk:Pisa International Airport[edit]

Hello! Would you mind taking part in this disscussion (talk:Pisa International Airport) about a new charter section in Pisa International Airport.
The aviation user. Zurich00swiss (talk) 23:03, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

User:Walid btr[edit]

User:Walid btr might be worth watching, especially if edit summaries like this continue. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 02:20, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

Aircraft roles[edit]

Hi, I have revised some of my thoughts at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Aviation/Style_guide/Lists#Roles, e.g. I now think that the Attack role cannot be avoided while the Maritime role can be. Would appreciate your latest views there. — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 16:21, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

Newbie advice[edit]

Hi, I'm new here in the last 4 weeks. I did a few improvements by adding sources which were missing on existing articles to begin with and I've done some biogs of "Great Escapers" for my first contributions, there are more to come. I've done some air aces and started doing some SOE agents. I'm not very good with IT but I'm trying to learn as quickly as I can. On my latest biog which is Ted Thorn DFC & Bar DFM & Bar it has been rated and somebody has asked for a photo of him although there is one there already. Please can you advise how I let them know. Thanks for your help. Researcher1944 Researcher1944 (talk) 16:26, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

General Dynamics F-16 Fighting Falcon[edit]

Clould you take a look at the current activity on this page? I think I have been doing the right thing here, but I am getting pushback. I don't want to break any rules. Thanks! ScrpIronIV 21:27, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

Carefull with the number of reverts SI4, unless it is outright vandalism then it can get you into trouble so you did right to ask for help. The IP needs to find a reliable source for the additions so as you say it needs to go to the talk page, I would also suggest that it is probably adding to much detail for what in the history of the F-16s is not a big deal and we have to take care of weight and balance within the article. MilborneOne (talk) 22:30, 3 September 2015 (UTC)


Hi. Could you please chime in here and see if you can offer some help. I'm rather worried that we are about to loose a new, prolific creator of serious articles. Thanks. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 16:13, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

1st Armoured Medical Regiment[edit]

Good Afternoon

Can you please delete 1st Armoured Medical Regiment so I can move 1 Medical Regiment there? Gavbadger (talk) 14:10, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

Green tickY moved MilborneOne (talk) 22:05, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

The Return of the Return of Fonte de Regaz[edit]

This time, as Eagle Striker [7] evidenced by this edit. I have reverted some IP edits as well this week, if you want a list. Same articles, same content issues. ScrpIronIV 12:50, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

This user Can't Be Trust.His The One Who Blow Up Anything.So,User Eagle Strike Dosen't Want Any Involvement.Scrapiron Is More Useless.So He WILL GIVE UP. (talk) 13:14, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
@MilborneOne: I wish I could take the insult seriously, but I can't. Note that this user is again editing logged out, or socking - I guess it doesn't matter which. I appreciate your time and attention on this matter. Thank you! ScrpIronIV 13:38, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
IP has been given a 48-hour rest for removing talk page comments by others. MilborneOne (talk) 17:40, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
Thank you so much. Did you want to deal with Eagle Striker as a WP:DUCK or do I need to file an SPI? The IP came along later - obviously the same editor, upset at my mentioning it to you, since you dealt with him before. ScrpIronIV 18:42, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
The IP is back after the block expired. Michael appears to be busy with real life, so going to SPI is probably the best option, but I don't know how (I've tried and messed it up too many times before). - BilCat (talk) 06:19, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

Shot Heard 'Round the World (baseball)‎[edit]

Could you please page protect this article again. The IP is back and won't go to the talk page....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 20:09, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

Green tickY MilborneOne (talk) 20:20, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the protect. You may have already noticed that this is also, in all likelihood, a socking issue -- multiple IPs, all geolocating to the area around Adelaide in southern Australia, re-adding the same bit of unsourced trivia for over 6 weeks. To whit:,,,,,,, and So far. DoctorJoeE review transgressions/talk to me! 21:41, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

WikiProject Military history coordinator election[edit]

Greetings from WikiProject Military history! As a member of the project, you are invited to take part in our annual project coordinator election. If you wish to cast a vote, please do so on the election page by 23:59 (UTC) on 29 September. Yours, Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 05:21, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

Boeing vandalism[edit]

Michael, there is a persistent user, both registered and IPs, vandalizing the Boeing article. Could you look into (semi-)protecting the page for a week or so? Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 16:02, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

Aeroflot Fleet[edit]

I've raised an issue re the Aeroflot Fleet article at WT:AV. Would you take a look please? Mjroots (talk) 07:59, 29 September 2015 (UTC)


Just a message to stalkers, looks like are old friend Philm540/2600:1002 is around as an IP 2600:1002:B02D:B6E1:7450:75FC:EB3D:531A (talk · contribs · logs · block log) has appeared on a B-24 article, bit busy with real life at the moment if anybody can check if the range block has expired, we might need to request a new one, thanks. MilborneOne (talk) 18:45, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

User:2600:1002:B00A:37A7:507D:D069:2FF7:DE9D - BilCat (talk) 19:47, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

Aer Lingus and Virgin Australia are members of the Etihad Airways Partners alliance[edit]

In response to your revision on the Aer Lingus and Virgin Australia articles, stating that there is no mention of them being members of the Etihad alliance, please refer to the published pages on the Etihad website:

  • Our equity partners: [8]
  • Aer Lingus: [9]
  • Virgin Australia [10]

In the meantime, I have reversed your revision. Thank you.

THE IMPERIOUS DORK (talk) 13:50, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

User:THE IMPERIOUS DORK are you actually sure, I suspect you have misread the references all they say is they are codeshares not the same as being part of the partners alliance, they dont appear from the website to be the same thing. MilborneOne (talk) 09:48, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Star Alliance GAR[edit]

Star Alliance, an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for a community good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. sst 14:52, 3 October 2015 (UTC

Pippa Middleton[edit]

You should not remove the Ancestry section on the Pippa middleton page unless you remove the Ancestry section on the mark shand page. both mark and pippa are the siblings of a future queen of the UK.

Please sign you posts, I have no idea who Mark Shand is and it is not relevant to the discussion on the Pippa Middleton page. MilborneOne (talk) 16:06, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

Sorry for not signing. To many people, Mark Shand is a very obscure, yet "noteable" person; this is why, as you say, you haven't heard of him. Mark Shand has his own ancestry section because he is the brother of the future queen of the UK - Camilla, Duchess of Cornwall, nee Camilla Shand. Please do not remove his ancestry section on his page - many people interested in history are well aware of his place in history as a sibling to a queen consort. Pippa Middleton is both an in-law to a monarch (Prince William) and the aunt of a future monarch (Prince George of Cambridge). All the best and I hope we have cleared things up for you.Srbernadette (talk) 22:06, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

So clearly neither of them like 99.99% of biogs on wikipedia needs an "ancestry" section. MilborneOne (talk) 17:35, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

The Return of the Return of the Return of Fonte de Regaz... yet again[edit]

Now as User: Malaysian Armed Forces Modernizarion Act and User:Eagle Striker and User:Eagle Striker 2 - same edits, same problems, same evidence...[11] ScrpIronIV 13:06, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Stupid Scrapiron,There's NO EAGLE STRIKE 1 AND 2 WERE INVOVLED.Think its true.YOU ARE INDONEISA'S MOST WANTED.BY OUR POLICE.YOU WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH.FONTE DE REGAZ IS ME AND IM FROM INDONESIA.SO R.E.S.P.E.C.T. ME NOW.Malaysian Cyber Security 14:34, 15 October 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Malaysian Armed Forces Modernizarion Act (talkcontribs)

Well, at least SOMEBODY wants me. It's so nice to be loved... ScrpIronIV 14:37, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

HOHO,It's A REAL MEN TALK.SO RESPECT ME.Malaysian Cyber Security 14:40, 15 October 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Malaysian Armed Forces Modernizarion Act (talkcontribs)

Facepalm3.svg Facepalm - BilCat (talk) 14:43, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

I am unhappy too about Rizuan (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · edit filter log · block user · block log) and their similar focus on bigging up these articles, creating categories for dead policemen and other weird stuff relating to Malaysian security. I think a full investigation of these accounts - and their edits - is needed. Have anybody done anything about them recently? — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 15:40, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
I have blocked Malaysian Armed Forces Modernizarion Act sorry but I dont have any more time today due to real life issues to do anything else. MilborneOne (talk) 20:46, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
If you could find the time in the next couple of days, I would appreciate it. I have been trying to control repeated issues with these editors without any tools for a while. I trust your judgement - if you believe it is not an issue, I will accept your judgement. You have dealt with this (these?) users for longer than I have. ScrpIronIV 04:38, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

Delta Air Lines[edit]

Michael, there is an edit war on Delta Air Lines over hubs, with no discussion on talk page of late regarding this. I've warned both the main editors involved for edit warring, but full protection and/or blocks may be needed here. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 19:26, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Full protection to encourage discussion. MilborneOne (talk) 20:34, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
Thanks much! - BilCat (talk) 00:04, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXV, October 2015[edit]

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Avio Aero[edit]

Avio Aero was deleted in April. Is there anything there worth userfying/restoring? I'm considering splitting it off from Avio, as they are now two separate companies. It would be helpful to know what was there before, and perhaps use whatever was there as a starting point. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 15:25, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

It was just a copy of the text from MilborneOne (talk) 17:48, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
OK, thanks. - BilCat (talk) 18:03, 20 October 2015 (UTC)


User:Kezzer16 has been posting many links to You Tube videos of music across many Wikipedia articles. I examined the videos and found that they all were uploaded by one Tube User, Alasdair from the UK, and that the music videos all appear to be copyright violations. WP:COPYLINK is very clear that we cannot link to even suspected copyright violations. WP:SPAM and WP:ELNO many also play here, since the placement of all these You Tube links seem to add up to a promotional campaign. I removed many of the links citing WP:COPYLINK and WP:SPAM, but User:Kezzer16 quickly reverted my removals. We have had a discussion on my talk page, but he is asserting that I have prove that these are copyright vios to remove them, etc. I'll let you read his arguments in detail there.

Here are some sample diffs for the insertion of the links: [12], [13] and [14]

The You Tube account is uploading many songs with the annotation "I recieve no monetary remuneration for my videos, those of you who like what I do can support me through:" which links to a solicitation for money. It seems from the notes there that the uploader does not own the rights to all these, nor are they freely licenced or licenced under iTunes by Google for upload.

I know you have a good grounding in copyright issues, so can I ask you to review this situation and offer your take on it? - Ahunt (talk) 19:23, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

The first one I looked at one You Tube of the Edinburgh Tattoo was a clearly copied from the BBC Broadcast so I would think that Alisdair doesnt really understand copyright (or they may not care on You Tube) and certainly we should not be linking to any of his videos without a proper provenance. Perhaps ask User:Moonriddengirl for advise as she knows all about copyright issues. MilborneOne (talk) 21:45, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
I've left a note for the user explaining why the content cannot be used and removed the content. The uploader's self-description as "Just someone who loves history, language, culture and music" gives us all too much reason to reasonably suspect copyvio, as does his claim to copyright ownership of the work of a broad swathe of artists, including album cuts from professional musicians. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 22:29, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

Eric Gordon England[edit]

Ok, will take your word for it - I was thinking of them both working at W&T as well.Rstory (talk) 21:50, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

Film Cabal problems[edit]

Any idea where to raise this issue? The film cabal has been overruled on a number of occasions at AFD, as their guidelines violate GNG, and their custom notice is misleading. I'm not sure where to take this to get a neutral hearing. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 17:43, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

Hum, not sure either when we as a project do this sort of thing we get jumped all over so it is clear the WP:GNG overules whatever a project thinks. The only place I can think of is Wikipedia talk:Notability and raise the issue that subject specific notability guide cant over rule the GNG (which is what we keep being told!). MilborneOne (talk) 17:54, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
(edit conflict) (talk page stalker) I have come across this type of project issue, and been equally stumped. I am keeping an eye on that particular page now as well, though. I do know a project consensus or policy can not trump WP guidelines. ScrpIronIV 17:55, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, I'll look into doing that. - BilCat (talk) 17:59, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

2010 Polish Air Force Tu-154 crash[edit]

I locked the article a few days ago due to an edit war. Would you please take a look at the discussion there. Seems that conspiracy theories are being pushed. Mjroots (talk) 08:48, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Support what you are doing and have replied on article talk page. MilborneOne (talk) 10:29, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
Yes Mjroots, conspiracy theories are being pushed, attempting to present them as credible scientific discourse, and I am trying to expose them for what they are. MilborneOne, would you mind commenting on my latest edit (diff), which keeps getting reverted? Essentially, I've moved all the parts of the article about assassination theories under a properly-titled section, also considerably trimming it down to comply with WP:UNDUE, and it's all supported by reliable sources (BBC, NY Times etc). It still references the report that is the main source of the conspiracy theory camp (plus another academic source), so the minority point of view should be sufficiently covered. --Deeday-UK (talk) 19:44, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Thanks much[edit]

Thank you for the helpful copy-edit to the new article I've created on the deceased British statistician, Roger Thatcher.

Much appreciated,

Cirt (talk) 18:40, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

Quick note re: 2015[edit]

Rejected edits wasn't targeted at you :) The IP had inserted two section headers, was just rolling it all back to last good to remove the 2nd, and your edit got included. -- ferret (talk) 19:33, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

Phil M[edit]

Michael, looks like Phil M is back. Check Gloster Meteor and Hawker Hurricane. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 07:22, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

Well, this probably not be Phil M based on Wikipedia talk:Sockpuppet investigations/Bilcat, but another sock of someone else. I think Trek and I have been accused of being socks of each other before, but I can't remember by whom. Definitely fishy. - BilCat (talk) 09:40, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

It was another blocked user, and the IP has been range-blocked. - BilCat (talk) 06:12, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
Sorry I have been busy with some real life stuff, it is the same user who didn't like me removing his "6th largest blue plane with pink spots additions. MilborneOne (talk) 11:24, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
No worries. Life happens, and others were able to deal effectively with Mr. Blue-Pink. - BilCat (talk) 21:42, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

IP edits at Airbus A330neo[edit]

Someone (from 3 different IPs) has been making the same edit to the A330neo article (most recently, this one) over and over, even after I revert them. He isn't trying to vandalize or anything, but you can see that the edit clearly isn't a good one. I left a message on one of the talk pages, but I guess he never saw it because his IP seems to be constantly changing. I am not really active on Wikipedia at the moment either, so I hope you will handle the situation. Z-small-VA-64x88.svgRihaz (Talk to meStuff I didGlobal) 13:04, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

Not sure I can see an issue Rihaz other than using a blog as a reference in the last post. MilborneOne (talk) 11:12, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

Tupolev Tu-154[edit]

Michael, could you look in to semi-protecting Tupolev Tu-154? A range of related IPs are removing the NATO names. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 06:14, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

Protected for a week to encourage discussion. MilborneOne (talk) 11:08, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 21:42, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

New Companies delsort category[edit]

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User:VCCCRML and Colombo's domestic airport[edit]

Hi! It looks like User:VCCCRML is simply a sockpuppet of User:ColomboAirportRatmalana, both implicitly representing the airport. The latter account was indefed on October 22 due to username issues, and the new account (ICAO+IATA codes) similarly ignores collaboration and was created on October 29 just to create a second article to his previous (but disallowed) preferred formats. Maybe this new account needs to be indefed as well and the article needs to be somewhat protected. HkCaGu (talk) 07:51, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

Thanks User:HkCaGu, I have protected both articles from being changed and asked User:VCCCRML to explain why they think the article is wrong. If they are disruptive again they will be blocked without further explanation. MilborneOne (talk) 09:15, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

This is wrong decision. I have entered very accurate information about Colombo Airport Ratmalana. Somebody is purposely trying to re-direct my page to other alternative page which is not giving accurate information. This person is adding misleading information and all the time creating changes in my page. Also sending wrong and useless complaints to the administrator and creating unwanted problems to my pag. Please put your attention and give sole authority to me to continue "Colombo Airport Ratmalana, Sri Lanka" page without any interruptions. Also cancel the memberships of these unwanted people who are trying to destroy Wikipedia by feeding wrong information and harassing to your members. — Preceding unsigned comment added by VCCCRML (talkcontribs) 10:13, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

This is wrong decision. I have entered very accurate information about Colombo Airport Ratmalana. Somebody is purposely trying to re-direct my page to other alternative page which is not giving accurate information. This person is adding misleading information and all the time creating changes in my page. Also sending wrong and useless complaints to the administrator and creating unwanted problems to my pag. Please put your attention and give sole authority to me to continue "Colombo Airport Ratmalana, Sri Lanka" page without any interruptions. Also cancel the memberships of these unwanted people who are trying to destroy Wikipedia by feeding wrong information and harassing to your members. — Preceding unsigned comment added by VCCCRML (talkcontribs) 10:17, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

Hi plase be careful about HkCaGu user. I have entered very accurate information about Colombo Airport Ratmalana. Somebody is purposely trying to re-direct my page to other alternative page which is not giving accurate information. This person is adding misleading information and all the time creating changes in my page. Also sending wrong and useless complaints to the administrator and creating unwanted problems to my pag. Please put your attention and give sole authority to me to continue "Colombo Airport Ratmalana, Sri Lanka" page without any interruptions. Also cancel the memberships of these unwanted people who are trying to destroy Wikipedia by feeding wrong information and harassing to your members. Please unlock my wikipage.

Please unlock my wikipage. Please unlock my wikipage. Please unlock my wikipage. — Preceding unsigned comment added by VCCCRML (talkcontribs) 10:23, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

VCCCRML thanks for the comment, first you need to understand that we don't have a concept of "my page" on Wikipedia, Wikipedia can be edited by anybody so nobody controls the page. We don't create duplicate articles and you need to understand that we already have an article on Ratmalana Airport. If you think that fact or information in that article are wrong then you need to explain what you don't like at Talk:Ratmalana Airport and it can be discussed, if other editors think you are right then the page can be changed. So your next step is to make a list of your concerns on that talk page so you can discuss it with other editors, thanks. MilborneOne (talk) 10:32, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

Hi, Only issue is when i make accurate information one editor all the time aggressively reject those information. If you refer the content of the page added under my name and exiting (previously introduced) page is totally filled with very basic information. you can just compare and see the accuracy level of the given information. Therefore i request you to understand the importance of these information and make the justice on my request. Please kindly go through the content of the page of "Colombo Airport Ratmalana, Sri Lanka" and please understand the accuracy level of that content. Awaiting the activation of this page to improve further with more valid and accurate information.

Colombo Airport Ratmalana 10:48, 4 November 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by VCCCRML (talkcontribs)

I am starting to repeat myself VCCCRML, forget your "page" we don't have separate articles on the same subject so you need to list at Talk:Ratmalana Airport what you think is not accurate so it can be discussed, thanks. MilborneOne (talk) 13:51, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

No it is wrongly understand by you. I clearly said content of the existing page is wrong. I am the airport manager of this airport and i tell you these wrong information create negative impact to my airport. Therefore i tried level best to introduce accurate information to give better validity to your wiki pges. but it seeams you do not want to improve the validity of your pages and still trust the false information of previous editor

(Colombo Airport Ratmalana 03:50, 5 November 2015 (UTC)) — Preceding unsigned comment added by VCCCRML (talkcontribs)

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New Disability delsort category[edit]

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the list of airplanes problems[edit]

it can be intersting to create a list of problems that killed many people. tx. nachum — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nachum (talkcontribs) 12:46, 6 November 2015 (UTC)


User:Yellowliner is apparently a company representative for Northeast Airlines (2015). I've warned for COI, but can you (or your stalkers) keep an eye on his edits? Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 04:40, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

Noted, I have added the relevant articles to watchlist. MilborneOne (talk) 11:22, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. I appreciate it very much. - BilCat (talk) 11:42, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
I cant find any evidence they have ordered any aircraft or have any licences, if the company was formed in 2014 should it not be Northeast Airlines (2014). MilborneOne (talk) 12:13, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
From their edit summary comments, it appears they may have copied the page layout from Eastern Air Lines (2015), possibly including the year for the title. - BilCat (talk) 12:18, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

McDonnell Douglas AV-8B Harrier II[edit]

Michael, McDonnell Douglas AV-8B Harrier II is the Featured Article today, and has been hit by a lot of IP vandalism, as have the related articles such as Hawker Siddeley Harrier and Harrier Jump Jet. Could you look into possibly semi-protecting the pages, or at least applying PC1? Thanks


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Help for Aviation in India[edit]

Hello, I have created an article Aviation in India. Can you please review it once and help in improvement? -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs · count) 12:04, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXVI, November 2015[edit]

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plained to you?do you wanted to say it does not make sense for 'you'. and if so why it need to be bmore ex — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 21:33, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

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Undiscussed page moves[edit]

Michael, I don't know if you want to get involved in this issue, but I'll ask anyway. A user has unilaterally moved Mercedes-Benz Stadium to Falcons Stadium, the second time the user has moved the page without discussion. Would you consider moving the pages back to the previous title and move-protecting the page while discussion is underway at Talk:Falcons Stadium? Thanks for considering this. - BilCat (talk) 19:04, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Not my area Bill but I have moved it back and protected it from being moved pending a consensus or not on the talk page. MilborneOne (talk) 19:58, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, I appreciate that. - BilCat (talk) 20:02, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Cessna 330[edit]

G'day, back in 2009 you added the redlink Cessna 330 to the List of Cessna models. I cannot find any evidence at all for this even in project form online, what is your source? Cheers YSSYguy (talk) 04:32, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

The prototype, and only 330 first flew in 1966. I will try and find a source, some discussion here and it also appears at MilborneOne (talk) 14:06, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
It was registered as N3764C serial number 659 but very little information around on it. MilborneOne (talk) 14:15, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

Virgin Atlantic parent company[edit]

There is a user continuing to add Delta as a parent company to Virgin Atlantic in addition to Virgin Group as a parent company as Delta only owns 49% shares of VS. Can you take a look? Citydude1017 (talk) 09:09, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I don't know how WP:AIRLINES usually handles this issue, but it should have come up somewhere before. I have two parents, so why can't a company? But part of the issue seems to be the use of Parent in the infobox, with no other parameters listed for ownership. I don't really see it as a big issue, but perhaps an ownership field can be added to the infobox master. - BilCat (talk) 09:24, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
Delta actually have shares in the holding company and not the airline itself! MilborneOne (talk) 12:08, 30 November 2015 (UTC)