Talk:Blackface

Sarah Silverman Show

http://sarahsilvermanonline.com/2007/10/17/sarah-silverman-blackface-episode/

I think this episode might be relevant to the pop culture aspect of it. If anyone wants to talk add it in —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.21.227.37 (talk) 04:54, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Jamie Kennedy and Dave Chappelle

Could Jamie Kennedy's big woman character be considered blackface?

What about Chappell's whiteface news anchor character?

Coffee5binky (talk) 04:23, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

shoop da whoop

isnt that blackface as well —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.188.101.60 (talk) 02:12, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

The Negro on the Stage, by Michael Hutton, Harpers Magazine #79, Jun-Dec 1889

Is this source useful here? The Negro on the Stage, by Michael Hutton, Harpers Magazine #79, Jun-Dec 1889 Jojalozzo 15:07, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

definition of "blackness" too broad, of "whiteness" too narrow

In his/her claim that the "Hee Haw" show, and the music and singing of Elvis Presley, Bob Wills, and Jimmie Rodgers are all rooted in "blackface" performance, the author seems to be assuming that all manifestations of "southern" white culture in popular media represent white misappropriation of African American culture. Southern white speech is, and was greatly more so in the days of Elvis Presley and Bob wills, a very rhythmic, "jivy" speech. I think that in modern America, as strong southern speech and behavior becomes less common among the white population, there is a growing tendency to consider most manifestations of southern culture as "black". I think that this is a harmful trend, as it draws too much separation between the races and creates a lot of general cultural confusion. Another thing I find irritating about the articles is this quote:

"Whites admire, envy and seek to emulate such supposed innate qualities of Blackness as inherent musicality, natural athleticism, the composure known as 'cool' and superior sexual endowment,"

I think that this statement does in fact ring true in many ways. However, I disagree with the idea that black people are the originators and sole legitimate proprietors of the concept of "being cool".

I feel that the author of this article has unresolved racial issues, and that the article should be greatly revised and edited, by someone in a less vindictive frame of mind. --Jimmy Spiz (talk) 05:56, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Please read the Wikipedia guidelines and policies (perhaps start with the five pillars) on editing articles, especially neutral point of view and original research. Note that editors are directed to base articles not on their own opinions and analysis but on the opinions and analysis of verifiable and reliable third parties (see WP:SOURCES). Quotes such as the ones you find troubling are actually useful content because they directly communicate the quoted author's ideas without being mediated by an editor's interpretation.

Readers and reviewers such as yourself play an important role in the project helping acheive its highest possible quality. It is important to remember to check an article's references to see what support it relies on and that all its claims and assertions are supported by reliable sources. However if a reliable source is used that a reader personally disagrees with that is not a fault of the editors or the article, it is just another facet of the article's topic. If a reader believes an article is lacking a point of view that is represented by a reliable source, it is helpful to point that out, but the project is not a discussion group and makes no space for readers who disagree with well sourced articles and cannot find supporting sources for their positions (i.e. original research).

I'm not claiming that this article is well sourced yet - most articles need improvement in that area - and I hope you can help us by locating some sources to round it out and offer alternative perspectives. Jojalozzo 13:27, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Blackface on All In The Family and SNL

The article should include references to the use of blackface by Carroll O'Connor on All In The Family in the 1970s and Fred Armisen on SNL currently (2008 to present - when he portrays U.S. President Barack Obama).

72.82.167.160 (talk) 14:40, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

"International" backlash against Memín Pinguín?

This section about "(Blackface in) México" is really American-centric. On the one hand, back in 2005 there were protests in the USA against the release of postage stamps portraying Memín Penguín, but those protests by the White House and by African-American communities are not an "international" backlash. And on the other hand, some "racially sensitive" and "controversial" images are so for the Americans, but not for the Mexicans, for the Latin-Americans or for others. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.156.147.145 (talk) 08:40, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

United Kingdom

This both predates the current mentions and is considerably more relevant: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_and_White_Minstrel_Show Thorsson64 (talk) 22:56, 8 April 2011 (UTC)