Talk:Masoud Barzani

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This page is a word-for-word copy of [1]. I'm not sure if the text is copyrighted or not. -- Goatasaur

Yes, I replaced it with an external link ( 17:57 Mar 16, 2003 (UTC)

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was close early. —Khoi khoi 00:25, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mesud Barzani → Mesûd Barzanî – The correct spelling of his name in Kurdish is with the diacritics. I believe that not using them would essentially be misspelling his name. —Khoi khoi 05:12, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Support. —Khoi khoi 05:12, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. The article should be at Massoud Barzani. - AjaxSmack 07:24, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I agree with AjaxSmack- it should be at Massoud Barzani. This is in line with the policy WP:NAME which says article naming should give priority to what the majority of English speakers would most easily recognize I think this spelling is most commonly used by English-speakers, regardless of the Kurdish spelling. Just have a look at [2] at all the redirects if you want evidence! AndrewRT - Talk 22:06, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Ok...should I change it? —Khoi khoi 22:15, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The usual spelling in English is Massoud Barzani. In Kurdish alphabet e is pronounced as a in cat, a likely source of confusion for English speakers, therefore it is better to stick with the English spelling.Heja Helweda 00:13, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Copyvio deleted

I have deleted the copyvio text and restored a clean version. --Aguerriero (talk) 22:37, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Move to Masoud Barzani

Both the spellings (Masoud and Massoud) are common in English texts. However, among these two, Masoud is more consistent with the original spelling. Also, in the official governmental website (www.krg.org), it's written as "Masoud". Jahangard 06:10, 3 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Under WP:NAME we should use the name most commonly used in english, not necessarily the name that is most "correct". A google search shows 1567 hits for Massoud in news vs 19 hits for Masoud. Web search shows 29900 hits for Masoud vs 147000 hits for Massoud. This shows that Massoud is used most of the time and hence I suggest it is kept here. By all means mention the alt spelling in the introduction text. AndrewRT(Talk) 12:12, 3 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think when both spelings are common in English, the official spelling should take precedence. Jahangard 16:30, 3 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Even WP:NAME doesn't suggest using the number of Google search results as the only criterion for chosing the spelling. Jahangard 16:38, 3 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Corruption and nepotism

The brief information I have added on this subject has repeatedly been removed. As an encyclopaedia, Wikipedia, must of course include information that is less than flattering about the subjects. Please do not remove again. If you have reservations about this information on Massoud Barzani, try rewriting instead.--Vindheim (talk) 18:08, 13 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Correct spelling of his name in English

The correct spelling for the name is Masoud Barzani, with one 's' in the first name. But the article title includes two occurances of 's'. His official biogrpahy at www.krp.org/MasoudBarzani, spells it with one 's'.

I have tried to 'move' the article to rename it, but the request is not allowed.

Mustafa was a moslem

Masoud Barzani's uncle Mahmoud, the elder brother of Mulla Mustafa Barzani, is reported to have become a Christian convert in 1931. However no such claims have (afaIk) been made concerning the famous Mulla Mustafa.--Vindheim (talk) 21:27, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Mustafa Barzani's page should also be corrected accordingly. --CreazySuit (talk) 21:28, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

All Barzani Family in Iraq is Jewish not Muslim or Christian. You can look at Kurdish Jews