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Bot problems
Your bot just posted some presumably broken links to Talk:0.999..., for example, here. For all I can tell, the bot does not like the links it mentioned because the URL was immediately followed by the "}}" closing the citation template; the links themselves work just fine in the article. Huon (talk) 15:53, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
- It didn't take long to find another example of this bot doing exactly the same thing at Talk:1,1,2-Trichloroethane with this link http://msds.chem.ox.ac.uk/TR/1,1,2-trichloroethane.html}}. Note the template brackets the bot included. Again, as above, the url itself http://msds.chem.ox.ac.uk/TR/1,1,2-trichloroethane.html is fine. It appears the bot has been shut down for the moment. Racerx11 (talk) 16:49, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
- I don't know how many false reporting were made, but my concern is that this may result in some good links being mistakenly removed by well intentioned editors. Should all these bot reports be reverted or is something else that can be done quickly to remedy this? Racerx11 (talk) 16:56, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
- I agree that this is a problem; I will look into fixing it. Please feel free to
removecomment upon any such false report, mentioning this section in your Edit Summary. — Jeff G. ツ 02:18, 1 June 2011 (UTC)- It is still doing it (talk:1926 Lithuanian coup d'état). I removed the false report before. Renata (talk) 15:44, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry, the bot's design is to replace removed reports if it still feels there is a problem. Please comment upon the reports, rather than removing them. — Jeff G. ツ 03:59, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
- It is still doing it (talk:1926 Lithuanian coup d'état). I removed the false report before. Renata (talk) 15:44, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
A different bot issue
Would it be possible to prevent the bot from making a series of edits like these? One report should be more than enough... --Izno (talk) 17:47, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
- This does not seem to be such a problem, as none of the BAG members objected to these three reports during the trial. I will, however, look into fixing it. Please feel free to consolidate such reports, adding summary comments like "the whole site is defunct, as it no longer has DNS" or "the site is being rebuilt, and is expected to be back online Tuesday" (preferably with some sort of reference). — Jeff G. ツ 02:46, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
- I'll certainly feel free to do so. :) I'm surprised there were no BAG comments. /shrug
- The best functionality would probably be one header, one edit, for all the links. Possibly titled "Dead links 1-N". But otherwise, thank you for the useful bot! --Izno (talk) 04:19, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
- I completely agree, please change this. There is a large difference between 3 edits and 24 like on Talk:2005 civil unrest in France. Combining the edits as well as the sections would be ideal. Crunk Cup (talk) 04:10, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Dead links
It would be much easier to check and correct dead links if you could indicate exactly where they are in the article. As it is, editors wanting to work on this have to search through a (sometimes lengthy) article in order to locate them. Would it be possible for the bot to link to the actual footnote? RolandR (talk) 17:20, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
- You should be able to search the entire wikitext for the URL. — Jeff G. ツ 04:01, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, but that is a tedious job. Particularly when, as in Talk:1948 Palestinian exodus, you list ten such dead links in a long article. I doubt that anyone would have the time, or the will, to hunt for all of these. Would it be technically difficult to link to the relevant footnote, so that editors could more easily correct these links? RolandR (talk) 08:53, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
- If you are not using a browser with a "find" function (usually Ctrl+F), you should switch to a browser that has such a function, or copy the wikitext to a text editor that has such a function. Relevant to that talk page: links like this don't work - I have removed seven instances of "!OpenDocument" from UNISPAL URLs in order to make them work again in this edit due to changes by UNISPAL to their website; http://ipsnewsite.mysite4now.com/ gives socket errors no matter what page you ask for; and http://daccessdds.un.org/ has no DNS no matter what page you ask for. — Jeff G. ツ 16:29, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, but that is a tedious job. Particularly when, as in Talk:1948 Palestinian exodus, you list ten such dead links in a long article. I doubt that anyone would have the time, or the will, to hunt for all of these. Would it be technically difficult to link to the relevant footnote, so that editors could more easily correct these links? RolandR (talk) 08:53, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
JeffGBot generating false positives
In regards to this recent edit by JeffGBot, your bot appears to have problems understanding citation templates. While extracting information from an instance of the {{cite book}} template, the bot pulled not just the URL but the URL and part of the template when looking for a linked to web page. The extraneous information added to the end of the URL predictably results in a 404 error that would be avoided by using only the URL itself. --Allen3 talk 13:06, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
Bot suggestion
Is it possible to get your bot to ignore unavailable external links if an archive url is provided? For example, {{Cite web}} has a parameter "archiveurl" which produces the output:
- "Example website". Archived from the original on 1900-01-01. Retrieved 2011-01-01.
If the original site is offline, the bot sees the dead link and reports it. However, since an archive url is provided there's no need to replace the link. Just a suggestion. Not sure how difficult this would be to code. TDL (talk) 06:16, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
- Just saw that this has been recently discussed above. TDL (talk) 06:22, 10 June 2011 (UTC)