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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Tothwolf (talk | contribs) at 13:52, 16 June 2011 (→‎"score" analogy: Reply). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Dr. Samuel J. Meisels page

I just resubmitted Dr. Meisels's page. I believe that you will find everything in order (at least I hope so). Thank you so much for all of your help. This is truly a tough arena to navigate. Thanks again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mica451 (talkcontribs) 21:19, 2 June 2011 (UTC) oops - forgot to sign! (````) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mica451 (talkcontribs) 22:54, 2 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, unfortunately Wikipedia can be very difficult to navigate. There's a truly dizzying array of policies and guidelines, and I'm always worried that well-intentioned new contributors such as yourself might get frustrated with them and run away screaming :).

To that end, I note that your re-submitted article was reviewed and declined by another editor. I've sent a note to the reviewing editor inquiring about his decision. We'll see what he says. It's entirely possible that the editor has a perfectly valid reason for deeming the sources which I think represent reliable, third-party coverage unreliable -- or that I'm missing some other concern.

Don't give up! :) Best, ɠǀɳ̩ςεΝɡbomb 03:19, 3 June 2011 (UTC) [reply]

Editor's response can be found here: [1]. Reasonable points, and more importantly, his concerns can be relatively easily addressed. Let me know if you need me to clarify what's needed. I should have some time free during the day tomorrow to work on this, too. ɠǀɳ̩ςεΝɡbomb 03:57, 3 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, so yes, I need your help please. (Mica451 (talk) 13:46, 3 June 2011 (UTC))[reply]

Sure thing. I (as may be obvious) didn't end up having any time today to work on this, but I should be able to get to it later, and I suspect it shouldn't take very long. I'll have a go at it, let you know when I've finished, and you tell me if you think it looks okay and, if so, it can be resubmitted. I'm primarily going to focus on combing through the sections on Dr. Meisel's work to make sure all of it is purely encyclopedic in tone (specifically, that it maintains a neutral point of view), and take a look at the external links in the article to make sure their usage is per policy. I may also see if I can reduce the sheer number of sources linked to Dr. Meisel's own work, because it might suggest to some that the article is imbalanced. Regardless, I'll shoot you a message later tonight when I've had a chance to work on this. Sorry for the delay! ɠǀɳ̩ςεΝɡbomb 21:07, 3 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Thank you for your help. I appreciate it. (Mica451 (talk) 03:38, 4 June 2011 (UTC))[reply]

No problem, this is something that I for some reason occasionally enjoy doing. I've fixed up the article, approved it, and moved it into mainspace, so it is officially "live." I have it on my watchlist so if any issues arise I can see about attempting to address them, and I'd urge you to do the same so that you can step in, too. It's almost entirely your good work, after all! Regardless, I hope this experience wasn't too trying for you, and I hope you continue contributing! Best, ɠǀɳ̩ςεΝɡbomb 16:42, 4 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you SO much! I appreciate all of your help! The last thing is that he wants to add a photograph to his page and (big surprise) I'm confused by the instructions. Can you help me? (Mica451 (talk) 15:39, 7 June 2011 (UTC))[reply]

Happy to help where I can, although I have to admit that dealing with images and copyright is not an area of much familiarity for me on Wikipedia. That said, I am pretty certain that any photograph you take can be used on Wikipedia with relative ease. Is it possible for you to supply a photograph of Dr. Meisels that you took/created yourself? ɠǀɳ̩ςεΝɡbomb 00:09, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
If Dr. Meisels owns the copyright to photographs of himself, he can donate them by releasing them under {{CC-BY-3.0}} or any of the other licenses at Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials#Donating your photographs. To confirm that he has released these images, Dr. Meisels can contact the Volunteer Response Team (also known as OTRS) by following the directions at Wikipedia:Contact OTRS and emailing permissions-commons@wikimedia.org. Mica451 can create an account at http://commons.wikimedia.org/ and upload the images through commons:Upload.

Additional information about images can be found at the helpful guide  (talk · contribs) compiled at User:Fæ/help/photo. Cunard (talk) 00:42, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

See above re: being the man. Thank you sir. ɠǀɳ̩ςεΝɡbomb 00:47, 8 June 2011 (UTC) [reply]
You're welcome. :) Cunard (talk) 01:08, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have gone ahead and withdrawn my delete vote from the AfD. The article seems decently workable now. Safiel (talk) 05:34, 14 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Declined Lemonade Mouth 2

Aite fair 'nuff. Sometimes in a rush I miscategorize pages for speedy deletion. I just thought, "I don't know what the hell this person is talking about, it's poorly written, and it could very well be a hoax. Get rid of it." --SuperEditor (talk) 18:32, 14 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

LOL. Completely agree on all counts. I actually thought hoax as soon as I saw it myself but it has apparently been announced (no idea if that's a reliable source, not that that matters). No worries either way, I totally agree that it's inappropriate for inclusion. ɠǀɳ̩ςεΝɡbomb 18:34, 14 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank You

Thank you for not blocking me. It was my first fault, and you differed this. It won't repeat I assure you. And I apologized Aciram. Thanks again — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.233.98.18 (talk) 19:00, 14 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No worries. Saw that you apologized to Aciram, too. Thanks for doing that. Just as a side note, take care to avoid SHOUTING in caps lock in your posts -- it tends to be aggravating to most people. Good luck, and best regards, ɠǀɳ̩ςεΝɡbomb 19:08, 14 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I'll do it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.233.98.18 (talk) 19:09, 14 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"score" analogy

While I don't think the "score" analogy works too well, this has since been dealt with and I've already said what I needed to say on AN/I [2] [3] in response to Ravenswing's attempts to use parts of a past, unrelated mess to discredit and attack me. These diffs were what I meant by attempts at intimidation [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] and they show a clear pattern of escalation. Ravenswing had expected or hoped I would tuck tail and run when they first began in on me on their talk page, and when I didn't, Ravenswing tried making a misleading AN/I post (for example, they didn't link to their removals of another editor's comments and no edit warring had taken place). I don't put up with bullies. When I see someone such as Ravenswing bullying others in AfD (especially while trying remove others' comments and use spa templates to discredit good faith discussion by others) I will step in and say something. --Tothwolf (talk) 04:39, 16 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

In case it wasn't clear from my post to ANI, I don't agree with any of your characterizations. ɠǀɳ̩ςεΝɡbomb 11:57, 16 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
That doesn't surprise me and you certainly don't have to. Doesn't mean my observations weren't spot on though :) As far as I was concerned, the AN/I "discussion" was pretty much done with and over (and would have soon been archived until you followed up there which reset the last timestamp for the archive bot). --Tothwolf (talk) 13:44, 16 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The latter bit there is a very valid point :). I looked at the posting times after I hit submit and realized that there hadn't been any activity on it all day. So... oops! ɠǀɳ̩ςεΝɡbomb 13:46, 16 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
...which is why I replied to you here instead of over there and found myself disagreeing with your comment of "It is, however, perfectly clear that neither of you are currently capable of just dropping this [...]". Ah well, c'est la vie... --Tothwolf (talk) 13:52, 16 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]