Talk:Lewis Namier

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POV Issue

I have cut this paragraph out: "Some evidence put the guilt on Lewis Bernstein Namier for probably unauthorised altering in the British Foreign Ministry of the Curzon line, so that it did not include then the third most important Polish city of Lwów on the Polish side. This fact had great influence on the negotiations about the Polish eastern border on the peace conferences in Teheran and Yalta." as reflects very much an point of view. The word "guilt" implies that Namier did something wrong, and moreover none of the "evidence" for Namier's alleged "crime" is shown. The word this paragraph is phrased implies quite clearly that the city Lwów, which is now the Ukrainian city of Lviv should belong to Poland. In 1918-19, the Poles and the Ukrainians were fighting it for the control of Lwów/Lviv and this pargraph takes the Polish side; in Wikepedia we are supposed to be neutral and not takes sides in territorial disputes.A.S. Brown 11:56, 7 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Once again, I have removed "He falsified the Curzon line, moving it to the west of Lviv", partly because it is unsourced, and partly it reflects a Polish POV, saying that the city of Lviv should have been included within the Curzon Line, but wasn't. --A.S. Brown (talk) 05:45, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Pronunciation

How to pronounce his name? In a French way, or a German way, or English way? Namiäää, Namia, Namiure????--141.84.29.78 (talk) 11:02, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Neigh as in horse; me as in not you; er as in Ur - it's quite simple really.--OhNoPeedyPeebles (talk) 21:59, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Place of birth

Was Wola Okrzejska part of the Austrian Empire? Henryk Sienkiewicz was born in the same village, which was, according to his article, in Russian Poland. Is it the same village? HerkusMonte (talk) 09:16, 5 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

According to these maps the Lublin region became a part of the Duchy of Warsaw in 1809, later incorporated in the (Russian ruled) Congress Poland. Wola Okrejska lies about 64 km (40 mi) north-west of Lublin, so Namier was obviously born in the Russian part. I changed it accordingly. HerkusMonte (talk) 07:30, 21 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Source of quote

The allegation that Namier was "taking ideas out of history" is attributed to sir Herbert Butterfield, but no source is given. The exact same expression is rendered on 133 webpages (according to google), none of which gives a quote. So did Butterfield really use this expression describing Namier, or is this just anecdotal? It would be very nice if someone could provide a source.