Talk:Hell's Kitchen (American TV series) season 9

This article was nominated for deletion on 24 December 2010 (UTC). The result of the discussion was redirect to Hell's Kitchen (U.S.).

Using dashes

Please see Wikipedia:HYPHEN and Wikipedia:NDASH to type a simple dash, single dash (–), not double dash (--). Thank you. ApprenticeFan ^work 06:47, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Contestant Progress Section

Please do not add additional colors/footnotes/identifiers to the contestant progress section. The consensus established at the series talk page (Talk:Hell's Kitchen (U.S.)#Contestant Progress Sections) was that we use a minimal amount of colors, no footnotes, and minimal amount of identifiers (Win, Loose, Out, etc.) If someone wants to find out more about a specific contestant's elimination they need to go to the episode description. As I'm wielding the consensus that has been established I consider myself immune to the edit war rules as nobody has yet to challenge (or open a talk thread about) the styling. Hasteur (talk) 11:21, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Is this why the entire page is locked? What about typos in the episode description that need to be fixed? Are you writing those? You even misspelled "lose" right above this comment. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.234.185.70 (talk) 14:19, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The page is locked because multiple IP editors and newly registered users are implementing style changes in the contestant progress section against the consensus listed above that has been established. I applied for semi-protection for this reason and an administrator agreed with my reasoning and locked the page. Take a look at the history of the page to see who made the typos. If there is a problem you can use the {{Edit semi-protected}} template to propose changes. If the change is appropriate for Wikipedia and meets the policies of the community, it'll be applied. Hasteur (talk) 14:38, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

We again are having IP editors add additional colors and identifiers against consensus. If this does not stop I will go to Administrator intervention against vandalism to petition for semi-protection again. Hasteur (talk) 11:54, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

why does it say bob next to elise on episode 908? 08:48, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

Links to Contestant Info & Biography

I've been busy adding links to external sources of interviews and biography information for the contestants. Then it occurred to me - Does anybody care? I think an interview of a contestant by a hometown newspaper is of interest and adds depth to the person. There's an occasional hint about future episodes. Anyone care to continue? Brookfield53045 03:27, 25 July 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brookfield53045 (talk • contribs)

I'm sort of torn. I think the guide here should be which ones that we expect to be around for more than a year. I don't think that Fox will continue to have information available. But "adding depth" should apply to links in the "See Also" section, not where they are.Naraht (talk) 18:28, 25 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Absolutely you should include, and you should be applauded for it. That sort of background sourcing is at the very heart of Wikipedia. And while Hell's Kitchen identifies its contestants by full name on the show's website, other shows, such as The Bachelor and The Bachelorette, do not, which has led to instances of incorrect last names being added and then getting picked up by the mainstream press, which eventually had to run corrections. (This is one reason the mainstream press rarely gives Wikipedia credibility.)

So, yes. The more we can accurately provide, the better it is for Wikipedia as a whole. The networks are known are getting things wrong — Bachelorette Ashley Hebert used to be described as a "dentist" until journalists corrected that she's only a dental student.

P.S. — given the nature of link rot, especially with small-town newspapers, when you add links, create a permanent archival backup at webcitation.org/archive. The instructions look daunting, but just fill in the blanks and hit submit, then copy-paste into this the archive URL. I usually embed it as "WebCitation archive." Good luck!--Tenebrae (talk) 00:27, 26 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Numbering the Contestant Progress section

Recent edits have me thinking about the presumptive numbering in the Contestant Progress section. I think the anon editor may have a point (even though it looks like they don't know it). Numbering any contestant other than the ones already eliminated is too presumptive, in my opinion. I think it would serve the article better if we left the numbering off until the eliminations make it apparent. Some could almost call it Crystal Balling. Padillah (talk) 20:26, 28 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

WP:BOLD Naraht (talk) 00:56, 29 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

All due respect, WP:BRD It had already been done and reverted. The next step was to discuss it. Padillah (talk) 12:35, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

OK. Discussion: I totally and completely agree with you and will fight to minor injury such as a hangnail to support you. Good enough? :) Naraht (talk)

Seeing as how we're the only two who seem to care... I accept? Padillah (talk) 17:28, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Number of episodes?

Is there a source for the fact that 915 is the final episode? Theoretically, there should be 17 episodes (for eliminating one per episode), but with Jason going, that would be 16. This of course assumes exactly one elimination per episode...Naraht (talk) 16:35, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Is truly a legit. Last season, Antonia left the show because of migraine and was sent to hospital and did not participate a single service. In previous seasons, all of the contestants must participate in the first dinner service. If the fifteen episode format continues, there is a semi-final double elimination (like the last two seasons), only two are in the final dinner service. ApprenticeFan ^work 02:22, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

What you've said is that the number of episodes makes sense. This is completely different than it being referenceable.Naraht (talk) 16:39, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]