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Specialized archives: Pre season, June, July, August, September \\ Tracking Data \\ ACE calcs

Other basin talkpages (2011): Atlantic - W. Pacific - Central and East Pacific - N. Indian - S. Hemisphere

Tropical Cyclone Reports and Best Tracks

Storm Name	TCR	Best Track
Storm Name	TCR	KMZ	FTP	NRL
01L.Arlene		[1]	[2]	[3]
02L.Bret		[4]	[5]	[6]
03L.Cindy	[7]	[8]	[9]	[10]
04L.Don		[11]	[12]	[13]
05L.Emily		[14]	[15]	[16]
06L.Franklin		[17]	[18]	[19]
07L.Gert		[20]	[21]	[22]
08L.Harvey		[23]	[24]	[25]
09L.Irene		[26]	[27]	[28]
10L.NONAME		[29]	[30]	[31]
11L.Jose		[32]	[33]	[34]
12L.Katia		[35]	[36]	[37]
13L.Lee		[38]	[39]	[40]
14L.Maria		[41]	[42]	[43]
15L.Nate		[44]	[45]	[46]

September

14L.MARIA

Best status from NRL: 50kts, 1002mb

95L.INVEST first appeared 2011-09-05, 1500z @ 9.2ºN 28.3ºW

Tropical Depression Fourteen from NHC 2011-09-06, 2100z @ 11.8ºN 37.0ºW

Tropical Storm Maria from NHC 2011-09-07, 1500z @ 13.0ºN 42.0ºW

RSMC Miami Tropical Cyclone Advisories

Tropical Storm Maria

15L.NATE

Best status from NRL: 60kts, 995mb

96L.INVEST first appeared 2011-09-06, 1200z @ 20.6ºN 93.8ºW

Tropical Storm Nate from NHC 2011-09-07, 2100z @ 20.2ºN 92.4ºW

RSMC Miami Tropical Cyclone Advisories

Tropical Storm Nate

Set Up

Not that it is of particular concern at this time, but how is the 2011 Atlantic hurricane season page going to be set up at the end of the season? Will it be like the 2007 Article, where it will need a separate page for the list of storms in the season, or like last seasons, where all it needs is the Seasons Summary section? TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 00:16, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It will be like last season. We've decided not use the new format (2007 AHS) any longer. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane

Okay, was just wondering. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 00:24, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Im happy to hear, I can see that set up being used on a crazy long season like 2005 but having a seperate list of storms for small seasons was just too confusing. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 22:06, 14 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that format is more confusing to readers than helpful. However, we might as well leave 2005, 2006, 2007 and 2009 as they are, because putting them back might deprive them of their FA/GA status. Rye998 (talk) 21:52, 14 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

2006 and 2009 do not have the new format. It is a content fork. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane

Ah, I didn't check back to see about that. Still, their notability status remains unchanged. Rye998 (talk) 20:02, 15 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nate Date

I know it's a cheek to do an edit with a comment "stop the edit wars", but the advisories and the RBT both say that TS Nate formed on the 7th Sept (whether you take UTC or CDT), not the 8th, so I have reinstated this.--Keith Edkins ( Talk ) 16:32, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Worse, these edit warring is spreading via IPs into the German WP article, which is prety much annoying. --Matthiasb (talk) 10:26, 16 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Track Map

While there are no active tropical cyclones in the Atlantic, the track map needs to be updated. It is a little behind, still showing Maria near Bermuda. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 19:09, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Direct vs Indirect

There has been a debate over what the line is between direct vs indirect for the north atlantic seasons/hurricanes. It varies from page to page, and is the author's opinion, when it should be the reader's opinion. This was mentioned on Hurricane Irene's Talk here and the words direct and indirect were taken away from the 2011 Atlantic Hurricane Season page by Cyclonebiskit.He said "...merging direct and indirect...due to uncertainty with several storms, best to just use total deaths (111 for the season)" (here) Thoughts? Bar Code Symmetry (talk to me) (What i've done) 20:49, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I don't like the idea of having direct and indirect. As Cyclonebiskit did, I like the idea of just merging them together. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 20:55, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, I dont really see the need for indirect and direct deaths caused by the storm, exceptions could be if an event occurs after a long period of time that was indirectly related I guess. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 21:56, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ophelia

Get ready for the editing on the 2011 AHS page, because according to ATCF, Ophelia has formed. I'm not updating it because its not technically OFFICIAL yet, but if I were you, I would go ahead and make the new sections and everything, and get ready to click save when the advisory comes out. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 02:15, 21 September 2011 (UTC) BEGIN NHC_ATCF invest_RENUMBER_al982011_al162011.ren FSTDA R U 040 010 0000 201109210206 NONE NOTIFY=ATRP END[reply]

Yes yes... there's already an unwritten procedure for that :P Darren 23^Edits|Mail 02:23, 21 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Tropical Storm Ophelia

I've noticed that nobody has written an article for Tropical Storm Ophelia yet...Are we waiting until it impacts the islands, because I plan on starting a sandbox tonight, and possibly publishing tonight if that is OK with you guys. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 21:52, 21 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Here we go again: What has it done which is notable in any way, shape or form? Darren 23^Edits|Mail 22:18, 21 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]