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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by 12.167.132.26 (talk) at 21:16, 27 October 2011 (→‎Angel.com). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

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Hello, Socialmedia2011, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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Phearson (talk) 21:07, 21 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Phearson (talk) 20:17, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Phearson (talk) 00:47, 25 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Angel.com

Someone has located the article - it was "Angel.com" and I have userfied it for you to User:Socialmedia2011/Angel.com. Because it was recreated several times in 2009, this title was salted - protected from creation - by user Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry (talk), so his permission will be needed before the article can be restored to the main space.

It seems from your user page and your conversations with Phearson that you are willing to learn and are approaching Wikipedia in the right spirit, but I should like to emphasise that the Wikipedia community is extremely resistant to the encyclopedia being used for any kind of promotion, and is deeply suspicious of paid editing of any kind. As long as you suggest changes rather than make yourself, declare your interest, and don't push, you should find people helpful - see WP:BESTCOI. The main difficulty professional PR people seem to have is that they are unable to switch off a promotional style and to avoid "peacock terms". (Last month someone told me "This is written with no promotional tone" about his article which included "phenomenally successful... obsessive and extensive knowledge of fashion design... revered for his rare ability... an arbiter of taste... his inventive images... ") You should imagine a hostile critic looking over your shoulder saying, at every claim you make, "Who says so? Can you prove it?" and need to make a positive effort to put out of your mind any idea that you are writing for your client. You are writing for Wikipedia, about your client, from outside.

WP:Corporations and the Community and WP:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide are worth reading carefully. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 20:44, 27 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you sooo much for the help. It's way more important for us to have an accurate page up at all than it is to have a page that's written the way we want it, and we're very careful about making sure our clients understand this too. That's why I was seeking the help of a paid editor who understands the nuances of all this rather than trying to just do it myself. I know enough about Wikipedia to know that I don't know enough about Wikipedia to tackle this by myself. I actually first contacted Phearson because I didn't even know if I'd be able to edit a page on the behalf of someone at all.

The person who set this up originally was [[[1]] but as that page shows, it seems he no longer exists.

I'm really really new at this, so if you wouldn't mind providing some assistance, how would you suggest I proceed? Suggest changes on the user page? Head straight to Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry (talk) to talk to him about permission to restore the salted page?

As you can tell by even the company page title being Angel.com, which Angel doesn't use anymore, Angel has changed significantly (and grown considerably larger) since the last article was up. So I'll definitely be suggesting a lot of edits.

And I can see I've got quite a reading list, so I'll get crankin!

12.167.132.26 (talk) 21:16, 27 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]