Talk:Quintus Fabius Maximus Verrucosus
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My man! --The Cunctator
- hmpf! Now let's see you take your man beyond a three-word stub <g> - clasqm
There is a reason I chose that name. --TheCunctator
Visigoth invasion?????????? KF 11:32 27 May 2003 (UTC)
"Fabius was well aware of the military superiority of the Carthaginians" this isn't true - the Romans actually had a much superior military, it was simply that *Hannibal was too good. On equal ground the romans would have won, but hannibal chose the scenario every time. Change.
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The article mentions that even though Fabius Maximus was part of the delegation to Carthage in 218 BC, it was his kinsman Fabius Buteo that declared war. However, looking at the citation (Liv. Ab Urbe Cond. xxi. xviii) along with the account by Cassius Dio (Zonaras 8, 22) it looks to me as though Fabius Maximus was the one who declared war. Maybe someone more knowledgeable could clear this up for me? Am I missing something or was it actually Fabius Maximus who declared war? Ltmboy (talk) 00:56, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
Unreferenced?
I would say that there are references, but no in-line citations. References can be improved. wikibiohistory (talk) 18:24, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Requested move
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The result of the move request was: No consensus for move. Ucucha 18:25, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
Fabius Maximus → Quintus Fabius Maximus Verrucosus — Full name. There are a number of watchers for this article so I wanted to be cautious rather than bold on this one. Sometimes written as Quintus Fabius Maximus Verrucosus Cunctator, however 'Cunctator' appears to be more of a nickname as it means 'the delayer'. Appears to be the consistent name choice on international wikipedias.—Labattblueboy (talk) 05:08, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose:They're all nicknames; cognomina are merely hereditary nicknames. I really think that this, like Julius Caesar, comes under Keep It Simple, Student. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 17:54, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
- Support: full names, please. --TakenakaN (talk) 18:36, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
- Why? We don't use Pompey's full name, or Caesar's, or Cicero's; why Fabius Maximus'? Septentrionalis PMAnderson 22:57, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose, I wouldn't oppose a move towards Quintus Fabius and perhaps even Quintus Fabius Maximus but I oppose the proposed 'Quintus Fabius Maximus Verrucosus'. Way too long, way too clumsy. Flamarande (talk) 17:13, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
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3 is the first odd number?
"Plutarch isn't sure exactly how Fabius came up with this number, although he believes it was to honor of the perfection of the number three, as it is the first of the odd numbers..." When did three become the first odd number? Where I come from, one is the first odd number. Hmmmmmm... Rsercher (talk) 20:36, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
Sources
How is Plutarch, writing biography in the 1st or 2nd century A.D. a "primary" source for the war with Hannibal and Fabius Cunctator's part in it, and both Livy writing in the 1st century B.C. and Polybius writing in the 2nd century B.C. (not even a century after these events), a "secondary" source?! Plutarch would have probably used those two (plus others of course) as his source.
It seems to me someone read Plutarch and wrote this article up from that. As I am doing some work in this area as I get some time to improve this article and include a better selection of source material into it.
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