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Strikeforce's womens 145 division is called Middleweight, and 135 is Welterweight, not Featherwight and Bantamweight

http://www.strikeforce.com/fighters/

CRISTIANE SANTOS - WOMEN'S MIDDLEWEIGHT CHAMPION NICKNAME: CYBORG FIGHTING OUT OF: CHUTE BOXE ACADEMY - BRAZIL HEIGHT: 5 FT 8 IN WEIGHT: 145 LBS AGE: 24 RECORD: 10-1

SARAH KAUFMAN - WOMEN'S WELTERWEIGHT CHAMPION FIGHTING OUT OF: ZUMA MARTIAL ARTS - VICTORIA, CANADA HEIGHT: 5 FT 5 IN WEIGHT: 135 LBS AGE: 24 RECORD: 11-0 Delinquent1904 (talk) 00:14, 17 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Here's why they are named different.Strikeforce refers to the Women's 145-pound weight class as Middleweight and the 135-pound weight class as Welterweight. However, the weight classes listed here conform to the weight classes in the Unified Rules of Mixed Martial Arts.[1] How this helps confusion. (MgTurtle (talk) 12:08, 29 June 2010 (UTC)).[reply]

As mentioned on Sarah Kaufman's discussion page, there is no reason to refer to the titles as Bantamweight and Featherweight on Wikipedia. Numerous promotions use naming formats that do not conform to the Unified Rules and all of those other promotions - Shooto, for example - have their titles correctly named here on Wikipedia. Cristiane Santos's title is the Strikeforce Women's Middleweight Championship. It is not the Featherweight Championship. By renaming it here, we are creating inaccurate articles and going directly against the goal of Wikipedia in compiling the most accurate article content possible. Reverting to Featherweight does nothing because other users will (rightfully) continue to switch it back to Middleweight. It is the Middleweight Championship and should be referred to as such. FemaleMMAFan (talk) 05:59, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Either than Shooto- most promotions are going towards the Unified Rules- such as what DREAM is currently doing. Shooto is the notable except mainly because of its history- its been around since the 1980s and only has recently started modernizing itself. It was the decision of the WP:MMA to name it after the Unified Rules. Nonetheless- Strikeforce went through three or four different names for its women's championships. If we all start calling it Middleweight now, we should also note on all the relevant pages that the title was originally the Women's Lightweight title and the Bantamweight title (135 lbs) which is now named the Welterweight title was originally called the Featherweight title by Strikeforce.(Justinsane15 (talk) 06:50, 3 August 2010 (UTC))[reply]
Yes, that's a fair point and it's already noted as such on the page for Gina Carano. You can use that same link that's there for other pages for the 145-pound division, but that citation doesn't apply to 135. I can find others that do, if need be. Basically, the decision to rename a title here makes no sense and that's why so many users keep reverting the changes to the official names. It's better just to stick with what the promotion names them because it results in less/no confusion. FemaleMMAFan (talk) 07:17, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cris Cyborg redirect

I think a search for "Cris Cyborg" should redirect to this article. She is often referred to by that name instead of her full given name. Ryziun (talk) 19:57, 17 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've created the redirect. I'm also thinking the article itself should be moved there per WP:COMMONNAME. Input welcome. --aktsu (t / c) 14:23, 21 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Image

Does the image on this article meet the standards of WP? Just wondering because it is not a personal picture.(MgTurtle (talk) 23:47, 10 February 2010 (UTC)).[reply]

MMA Record - not stripped of the title

By her most recent fight, it says she was stripped of the title after testing positive for steroids. The reports I've seen did not say she was stripped of the title, and she is still listed as champ on Strikeforce's website.

  1. ^ "Unified Mixed Martial Arts Rules". state.nj.us. Retrieved 2010-02-26.