Talk:Sardar

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In punjab, Sardar means a Landloard with good wealth and prosperous. Sardas term specially used in Jatts of Punjab. Now a days people call Sardar Ji to all person with Turban and Beard. It is not Sardar who has Turban and Beard. Any one can be Sikh but it doesn't means anyone can be Sardar. Sardar can only be used for Jatts.

Says who? All Sikhs are equal, Sardar is a noble title, a Singh should be noble by nature, hence can be called Sardar, take your self - important attitude elsewhere, no true Sikh would have such an arrogant attitude.

Please, gentlemen or ladies, a little civility. It would be pleasant if you would also sign your contributions (such as they are). Ratagonia 06:55, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

No provision for Sardar in Sikhism

In this article, it is written that "the word Sardar-ji refers to an adult male follower of Sikhism; for females, the suffix -ni is appended (pronounced Sardar-nee).", but let me make it clear that Sardar is just humans created (probably to consider themselves supreme from other sikhs, or by non-sikh people who want to fill ego in certain sikhs by calling them by such names, by the intention to actually deviate them from their religion.)
An adult/child male follower of sikhism, is Sikh (and his middle name or last name includes Singh)
An girl follower of sikhism, is Sikh-ni or Sikh-nee (and her middle name or last name includes Kaur)

A True sikh is that who follows his Gurus. And none of our Gurus have put sardar in front of there names, so how come today's sikhs are putting such names??? To be clear the names of our Sikh Gurus are:-

1. Guru Nanak Dev Ji
2. Guru Angad Dev Ji
3. Guru Amardas Ji
4. Guru Ramdas Ji
5. Guru Arjan Dev Ji
6. Guru HarGobind Ji
7. Guru HarRai Ji
8. Guru HarKrishan Ji
9. Guru Tegh Bahadur Ji
10. Guru Gobind Singh Ji
11. Guru Granth Sahib Ji (The Jyot(light) of all 10 Gurus and also called Immortal Guru)

Moreover, in Guru Granth Sahib, Sardar word is used nowhere.

So as you can clearly see, none of our Gurus is Sardar, so how come there followers be sardar. It's purely created by people for their self-willed purposes (Manmukhs).

Harinder Singh
Guru ka Daas
Mailmeharry2008 (talk)

Harry, what you have said may be true for Sikh spiritual purposes, but here the encyclopedia is not based on what is spiritually true; rather, it is based on what is written by reliable sources--including those uses of the word that may be improper according to pure Sikh theology. This article just describes how the word is used, not how it should be used. Steveozone (talk) 05:29, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

No article should describe everything in true context, it's true that it is being used in the context to refer Sikhs, but it is actually being spread out in the world. If sikhs roam around, they are called as Sardars by many people, which hurts them internally but due to their polite nature, they never say a word to such people. So wikipedia should properly explain the truth about everything, rather than what's being just done, as people reading this follows the Article. And in today's date, i even found certain sikhs calling themselves as sardars, and giving reference to articles like this. That's why i took the initiative to explain what the truth is to the non-sikhs as well as to the sikhs, but you deleted my post.

Mailmeharry2008 (talk)