Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Iran

Urgent articles in need of expansion

For now, I think we should be working on the 10-12 provinces that are need of expansion. Ive listed them on the main page here.--Zereshk 00:15, 14 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Im also thinking that Afghanistan's provincial pages also need help. After all, Afghanistan, Azarbaijan, and the Central Asian Republics are all cultural satellites of Iran.--Zereshk 23:01, 15 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Economy of Iran

The Economy of Iran article needs to be formatted and then expanded. Any help would be appreciated. Aucaman^Talk 20:31, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Persian vs. Iranian

Could you, if you will, please have a look into the following dispute on the Zoroastrian talk page.

Talk:Zoroastrianism#Persian_vs._Iranian

Thanks in advance. Str1977 10:02, 6 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Iran featured?

Could we set a goal of this project as getting Iran to featured status? The original FAC nomination mentioned this WikiProject, and the article being featured on the main page would be a huge boon to Iran-related topics and certainly make Wikipedia a "premier resource" on Iran. (I am currently soliciting feedback; if there are no significant objections I will add it to the project page.) --Wikiacc (talk) 23:05, 10 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Done. --Wikiacc (talk) 22:08, 14 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Fazlollah Zahedi

Could somebody please take a look at Fazlollah Zahedi, as the story of the coup appears to be at odds with what is said elsewhere (see Talk:Fazlollah Zahedi). Also, I'm surprised there isn't an article on the coup itself (I suppose Operation Ajax comes close). Rd232 ^talk 10:14, 6 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Im not competent to write on that topic. I know nothing about it. Unfortunately.--Zereshk 22:02, 6 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Iran on IDRIVE

I'm considering putting Iran on the Article Improvement Drive to help get it featured in a more timely fashion--plus it'll be improved by editors who may not usually be around the Iran corner of Wikipedia. Soliciting feedback… --Wikiacc ¶ 22:40, 9 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Good idea to me.--Zereshk 04:57, 10 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Empty sections in Portal:Iran

Here are a few ideas for filling up empty sections on the portal:

Life in Iran (article on culture,arts,cuisine, etc.)
Selected Iranian
Quote
"In the spotlight" <- article about something in news

Let's try and make it a featured portal. deeptrivia (talk) 00:58, 15 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:History of Iran

Islamic republic of Iran is listed under 'Empires of Iran'! this was pointed out when the Persian empire article was put up for 'featured articles'.. I think it needs a little fixing. --Kash 15:16, 15 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What needs to be done?

I'm willing to participate in this project and currently I'm disambiguating links to [[Persian]] . Could someone let me know what needs to be done in this project? Mahanchian 19:52, 19 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Getting Iran featured

Should we address all the issues and try again? deeptrivia (talk) 23:44, 19 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think user:wikiacc is working on that one.--Zereshk 01:08, 28 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

History stub

Do we need another page for Iran history stubs? I found a number of them which I addedd to {{iran-stub}}. Mahanchian 23:57, 21 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Heja Helweda, Diyako, Aucaman

These three users are on some sort of anti-Iranian crusade vandalizing all the Iranian and Persian related articles. We need to keep an eye on their " edit activities" as their intentions is not sincere but merely for the purpose of propagating false information.

Al-Khwarizmi

Someone please check this out: Talk:Al-Khwarizmi#Persian_again.2C_huh.3F. An editor is insisting on removing all statements pointing to the Persian origin of Al-Khwarizmi, who he claims is an Arab in every way. Can someone cite a good reference? Thanks! deeptrivia (talk) 15:25, 27 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your comments would be appreciated

Systematic vandalism on Iran-related articles reported: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#User:Aucaman_and_User:Heja_helweda_and_User:Diyako

Your comments would be appreciated

Rumi is being peer reviewed

Please go through the article, and suggest how it can be improved further to raise it to featured status. I've put it on peer review: Wikipedia:Peer review/Jalal al-Din Muhammad Rumi. Thanks! deeptrivia (talk) 18:17, 4 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Persian Empire

Please be aware that the article Persian Empire is being regulary vandalized by an unregistered user (see the various ip addresses). The edits appear to be designed to undermine the idea of Iran being a continuous nation or civilization. Here is an example of one of the edits:

Successive states in ancient Iran are collectively mislabeled the Persian Empire by some Western historians regardless of the fact that succesive states had little of the continuity that would be ascribed to a singular state; the language, forms of government, state religion, military culture, capital city and economic system changed every time a new centralizing authority arose upon the Iranian plateau.'

The editor is most likely attempting to create a pretext for seperatism. --Houshyar 04:20, 5 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Based on the edits, I believe that the ip vandal is Bockspur. --Houshyar 05:42, 5 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Help!

Can someone write this in text (Farsi script) for me? I am assuming it reads:

Mun tu shudam tu mun shudi,mun tun shudam tu jaan shudi

Taakas na guyad baad azeen, mun deegaram tu deegari

If not, please transliterate the above into Farsi script. Thanks! deeptrivia (talk) 05:31, 5 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Greater Iran

Please show your support on the Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Greater_Iran page. --Houshyar 18:32, 6 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Heja and Diyako's attacks

In light of the above and recent occurences, the way to deal with these people is to take them to ArbCom. I think we have a case to ban them from Iranian articles based on their obsession with dismantling Iranian articles. We did this once with another user. He was banned permanently from editing specific articles.--Zereshk 00:07, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Heja and Diyako must be banned

I agree with the decision to refer them to ArbCom. They must not be allowed to continue their lies and propoganda. They have never posted anything factual. They just post their own opinions and that is unacceptable.

Iranian Wikipedians' Notice Board (WatchDog)

Please bookmark this page, for daily updates on the status of the Iran-related articles. Read notices posted by others or add your own notice by updating "Urgent view". --ManiF 15:52, 11 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Today the Change definitions and set the Grounds for Tommrows attack on Iran and the Middle East

All Iranian related articles are being attacked by user:Acuman, user:Diyako, and others with objectives very similar to the Israeli governments. Saying Kurds and Jews are one!? Saying Iranian is not an ethnic group!? Saying Khuzistan wants independence!? Saying Balouch are not Iranian!? Saying Kurds are ashamed to be called Iranian!?

Protect the truth becuase today the attack defintions to set the grounds for tommrows wars and problems. 69.196.139.250 02:22, 16 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Conversation on Nowruz and User: Diyakos claims that Nowruz is not Iranian

Exactly, it shouldn't all be about the Persians. That's why I changed the introduction at Norouz to make it acceptable to all groups, including the Kurds. I got it from here. Let me know what you think. --Khoikhoi 21:08, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Would you like to do the merge? I feel that if I do it I'll mess it up. What do you think of the new intro? --Khoikhoi 21:15, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I don't think the Iranian editors will agree with you on this. I changed the intro to include the Kurds, so what makes the Kurdish version so different that it needs its own article? The Russian version of Christmas doesn't have it's own article. --Khoikhoi 21:25, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

The russion version of christmas has not its own article has nothing to with the Kurdish Newroz article. Kurdish Newroz is different than Farsi Norouz and deserves its own article. also farsi users have their own pov who may claim Adam and Eve were farsi or as they say Iranian. If you still think the POV of some farsis is more important for you then you can nominate the Kurdish Newroz for deletion. Sure there are more neutral wikipedians than you farsis.Diyako Talk + 21:30, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

But you haven't explained to me what makes the Kurdish version so different. Please do. And why do you keep calling them Farsis? Are you aware that this term is deprecated because it has Arab origins? It seems that you're doing it to provoke them. Have you seen the website No more "FARSI" !!! ? --Khoikhoi 21:33, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

I looked at the article and I couldn't find it. Secondly, in the English language we use "Persians" to refer to them, not "Farsis". And what do you mean you know me? --Khoikhoi 21:42, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

There was a warning issued about the use of "Farsi" and I think you are trying to be disrespectual and provactive with the term Farsi and Farsi Noruz. COnsider this a warning. Secondly there is no such thing as Farsi Noruz. There is only one Noruz which is celebrated by all Iranian people and people of Iranian culture. You stated Nevruz was similar to Noruz. NO IT IS NORUZ, just in another language. 69.196.139.250 21:44, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm neither Turkmen nor Kazak, I do not knwo much on the turkic nevruz but that turkish cultural source states shows how they are different. their only similarity is that they are on beging of spring.

Also the word Farsi is more accurate than Persian. Farsi is the name of modern persians i provided a dzen of sources in the talk page of Persian people.Diyako Talk + 22:07, 19 March 2006 (UTC).Diyako Talk + 21:49, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Who am I then? Send me an email. --Khoikhoi 21:57, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Nevruz is Noruz just a different langauge. And all the states you cliamed have registered to have it recognized along with Iran and Iraq (representing Kurdistan) as one clebration under the name Nowruz to UNESCO. There is no need for this article. Becuase the subject people's official governments recognize it as being the one and same as Nowruz, which it is in relaity, and have made join motions with Iran on the issue.

Here are your verifications.

http://www.payvand.com/news/05/apr/1107.html

69.196.139.250 22:31, 19 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User Deyako is further attacking Iranian articles

See his webpage about his Farsi comments. Someone get Admin involved with him. Also he is vandalising the Kurdish article saying the Kurdish flag is criminal in Iran and using random/fake webpages. They say nothing about flags. See his talk page and also the Kurdistan article. I clearly warned the editors on the fake sources and fabrication. ADMIN NEEDED. 69.196.139.250 02:06, 20 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Watch Dog: All Editors if you wan this anti-Iranian cartel busted read my talk page

Read my talk user:Manik666 page and the Kurdistan talk page and archieves and you will have user:Diyako busted and proof that Heja and Acuman are biased have an anti-Iranian agenda. Go to my talk page and read Harassment. Manik666 05:14, 20 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Articles on ziyarat and ziyaret

MPatel and I have been working on articles on ziyarat and ziyaret, or Muslim pilgrimage and places of pilgrimage. Help is requested on ziyarat, to explain the usual procedures at shrines, especially Shi'a shrines, and on ziyaret to get a list of pilgrimage sites in Iran. PD and CC pictures would be particularily welcome. This is a chance to educate people in the beauties of Islamic and Persian architecture and gardens. Zora 13:05, 20 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User:Acuman trying to create edit wars between Iranians and Arab editors

Here is a direct quote: Watchlist this article and follow some of the things in the discussion page. Same with Persian Gulf naming dispute. AucamanTalk 06:21, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Also here quotes by user:Ahwaz

If you get into any dispute with the Persian chauvinist gang over content, they will not compromise and start making allegations, the favourite being: anti-Iranian, anti-Persian, Jew, Israeli, separatist, terrorist, "want to break up Iran", and all that crap. They are free to say this without any admin interference. When I tell someone to blow their nose, there is a big furore and the admins take action. Wikipedia is a pile of rubbish and the people that run it are donkeys. The code of conduct is there for powerful gangs to impose their agendas. If five people are against two or three, it does not matter how many times you revert they will always have their point of view imposed on articles. Why spend time on this nonsense? Even the media is now showing up Wikipedia's failings. No serious academic is involved (oh, there's the "genius" Zereshk, who knows everything about nuclear engineering, quantum physics, architecture, philosophy, poetry, religion, linguistics, medicine - you name it, he is the self-appointed expert - and he still finds time to run edit wars and insult people). Ask yourself why. Because no serious academic takes it seriously. It is rubbish.--Ahwaz 11:43, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

69.196.139.250 00:34, 6 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Anglo-American Forces and Israel are fostering these artificual problems in Iran

All the beheadings, murder of foreign reporters, mosque bombings, and terrorist activities in Iraq are committed or sanctioned by Anglo-American occupation forces or Israel. Israel is very much so involved in North Iraq that is why there is new claims that Kurds and Jews are one and the same race by Israelis. This has resulte din an alliance between a very small minority of Iraqi Kurds and Israelis. Connect the dots with what is happening from Iraq to Iran.

Here is proof:

British Special Forces Caught Carrying Out Staged Terror In Iraq?: Media Blackout Shadows Why Black Op Soldiers Were Arrested: USA, Information Liberation [[1]]

Britain "apologizes" for terrorist act in Basra; Rescue of SAS men who were planning to place bombs in Basra City Square: Global Research.ca, Center for Research on Globalization [[2]]

The next link is photographic evidence taken by Iraqi Police, before British Military attacked police station and freed the British terrorist operatives. [[3]]

Caught red-handed: The Raw Story, North America [[4]]

Troops free SAS men from jail: The Telegraph, United Kingdom [[5]]

Iran accuses UK of bombing link: BBC, United Kingdom [[6]]

Basra council severs relations with British: Daily Star, Lebanon [[7]]

Basra Council Cutting Ties with British: China Radio International (CRI), China [[8]]

69.196.139.250 04:06, 9 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]