User talk:Just Step Sideways
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Hello Beeblebrox
Would you please undelete my blank user page that you deleted on January 3, 2010? Or at least help by explaining how to create a user page with the exact same name to reclaim my contributions...i've obviously changed my mind about being here and i'de like to un-red and re-blue my name on the history pages of Wikipedia. Thx. Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Henry_Delforn (For id purpose i leave my email address: — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.237.169.36 (talk) 22:49, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
- A gmail address can be created by anyone and is not proof of anything. I have no way of knowing if that email was ever associated with that account or with the name behind it. You would need to sign in as that user and make this request again, it would then be granted without question. And actually it is generally considered extremely unwise to post your email address anywhere on Wikipedia so I've taken the liberty of redacting it from your post. If you had email enabled on that account you should be able to recover your login information if you have forgotten or lost it. Beeblebrox (talk) 01:35, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
- I've done some digging to see if there is any other way to reclaim the account, and I'm afraid it looks like there is not. If we can't verify that you are the same user then we can't accept any request based on that presumption. I'm not saying I don't believe you, but we have had problems on occasion with users impersonating others or trying to take credit for their actions here, so we tend to err on the side of caution in such matters. Beeblebrox (talk) 02:35, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry to butt in, I've looked at it a bit more. It seems fairly clear that the original account was owned by a Henry Delforn of Carpinteria, CA. If this new person, whose IP locates to Murrieta, CA, could somehow prove he is Henry Delforn (like sending a trusted user a copy of his license, utility bill, business card, etc), I would be willing to let him usurp the old account. MBisanz talk 02:49, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
- You guys are alright, i don't care what they say...Beeblebrox: you got my back, thanks for deleting the email; MBisanz: butt in butt in (btw, i think i remember you...the signature looks familiar). Anyway, Beeblebrox i'm a little confused, how can i sign in as a user that doesn't exist? I got another idea to prove my identity...since i use the exact same user name in wikimedia, wikibooks, wikiqoute, wikinews, wiktionary, wikinews, ...etc. Therefore, what if i log in and write both of your names on 2 or 3 of my user pages in these sites? Would that satisfy? I'm reluctant regarding "(like sending a trusted user a copy of his license, utility bill, business card)" and confused about signing into a non-existent account. The only account i closed back then was wikipedia because one admin was greatly unfair against me and i was totally clueless regarding how to defend the unfair attacks (i.e.-wikipedia policies/laws/rules/appeals). Aaaaaanyway,...water under the bridge. MBisanz: what's "usurp"? and also, i moved from Carp, i am now in Glendora, not in Murrieta. Thanks again to the both of you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.237.169.36 (talk) 03:51, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
- Bingo. If you could log into one of your old accounts on another wiki, I could do it then. It would require some shuffling of stuff around on my end, but once you log in and prove it, I'll provide detailed instructions on what to click and where to do it. MBisanz talk 05:08, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
- MBisanz: okayyyy, that's great...so i copied & pasted your message above at the bottom of this link http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Henry_Delforn#About_User (i own you one, thx)...see ya. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.55.142.144 (talk) 02:34, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
- Go over and log into Commons again, then click commons:Special:MergeAccount on this page. Then unify/create an SUL as the page instructs. When you return here, an account should automatically have been created for you. MBisanz talk 20:02, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
- boy, i can't tell you enough how i resisted linking wiki accounts when commons:Special:MergeAccount came into being. i prefer not to link the accounts...is there no other way? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.237.169.36 (talk) 05:17, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
- Try going to Special:UserLogin and signing up for a new account using the old name "Henry Delforn" I moved it out of the way, so it should let you re-register. MBisanz talk 15:41, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
- MBisanz, i was telling Beeblebrox that i wanted the exact same name to reclaim my contributions. i think that re-registering would not make my red go blue...in other words, i want to reclaim the contributions i made using my name as it was prior to my user page being deleted (which btw, it was deleted without even me requesting deletion). I don't really want to start all over again...know what i mean? i would like to pick up where i left off two years ago. Thx. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.237.169.36 (talk) 01:01, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
- Try going to Special:UserLogin and signing up for a new account using the old name "Henry Delforn" I moved it out of the way, so it should let you re-register. MBisanz talk 15:41, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
- boy, i can't tell you enough how i resisted linking wiki accounts when commons:Special:MergeAccount came into being. i prefer not to link the accounts...is there no other way? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.237.169.36 (talk) 05:17, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
- Go over and log into Commons again, then click commons:Special:MergeAccount on this page. Then unify/create an SUL as the page instructs. When you return here, an account should automatically have been created for you. MBisanz talk 20:02, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
- MBisanz: okayyyy, that's great...so i copied & pasted your message above at the bottom of this link http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Henry_Delforn#About_User (i own you one, thx)...see ya. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.55.142.144 (talk) 02:34, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
- Bingo. If you could log into one of your old accounts on another wiki, I could do it then. It would require some shuffling of stuff around on my end, but once you log in and prove it, I'll provide detailed instructions on what to click and where to do it. MBisanz talk 05:08, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
- You guys are alright, i don't care what they say...Beeblebrox: you got my back, thanks for deleting the email; MBisanz: butt in butt in (btw, i think i remember you...the signature looks familiar). Anyway, Beeblebrox i'm a little confused, how can i sign in as a user that doesn't exist? I got another idea to prove my identity...since i use the exact same user name in wikimedia, wikibooks, wikiqoute, wikinews, wiktionary, wikinews, ...etc. Therefore, what if i log in and write both of your names on 2 or 3 of my user pages in these sites? Would that satisfy? I'm reluctant regarding "(like sending a trusted user a copy of his license, utility bill, business card)" and confused about signing into a non-existent account. The only account i closed back then was wikipedia because one admin was greatly unfair against me and i was totally clueless regarding how to defend the unfair attacks (i.e.-wikipedia policies/laws/rules/appeals). Aaaaaanyway,...water under the bridge. MBisanz: what's "usurp"? and also, i moved from Carp, i am now in Glendora, not in Murrieta. Thanks again to the both of you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.237.169.36 (talk) 03:51, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
Actually, if you look at the history of your old talk page, it is clear that the user page was blanked, I left a note on the talk page asking if that should be interpreted as a request to delete it, [1] and that message was also blanked[2]. It was only then that I went ahead and deleted it. Once this is sorted out it can easily be restored to its former condition and you can make a note there indicating that the now-renamed account was you, but without your login info from that account I don't think there is any way for you to actually resume editing with that account's history in your contribs. I not sure I see why that distinction would be so important anyway, but it looks to me like MBisanz has been very accommodating and is willing to do everything that can be done about it. Beeblebrox (talk) 03:01, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
- Yeah, I cannot give you access to an old account you lost the password to, because I don't have a way to reset passwords. The best I can do is to let you have the old username and old userpage with a new, empty, contributions history. Sorry. MBisanz talk 17:51, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
Edit notices
Do you know the hex color of the bright orange edit notices we used to use? If not, could you point me to someone who knows? – Confession0791 talk 01:13, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
- I don't even know what "hex color" means, so I don't think I can help you, sorry. Beeblebrox (talk) 01:29, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
- Could you comment here please? – Confession0791 talk 04:58, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
Looks to have been resolved without me. Beeblebrox (talk) 05:38, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
MSU Interview
Dear Beeblebrox,
My name is Jonathan Obar user:Jaobar, I'm a professor in the College of Communication Arts and Sciences at Michigan State University and a Teaching Fellow with the Wikimedia Foundation's Education Program. This semester I've been running a little experiment at MSU, a class where we teach students about becoming Wikipedia administrators. Not a lot is known about your community, and our students (who are fascinated by wiki-culture by the way!) want to learn how you do what you do, and why you do it. A while back I proposed this idea (the class) to the community HERE, were it was met mainly with positive feedback. Anyhow, I'd like my students to speak with a few administrators to get a sense of admin experiences, training, motivations, likes, dislikes, etc. We were wondering if you'd be interested in speaking with one of our students.
So a few things about the interviews:
- Interviews will last between 15 and 30 minutes.
- Interviews can be conducted over skype (preferred), IRC or email. (You choose the form of communication based upon your comfort level, time, etc.)
- All interviews will be completely anonymous, meaning that you (real name and/or pseudonym) will never be identified in any of our materials, unless you give the interviewer permission to do so.
- All interviews will be completely voluntary. You are under no obligation to say yes to an interview, and can say no and stop or leave the interview at any time.
- The entire interview process is being overseen by MSU's institutional review board (ethics review). This means that all questions have been approved by the university and all students have been trained how to conduct interviews ethically and properly.
Bottom line is that we really need your help, and would really appreciate the opportunity to speak with you. If interested, please send me an email at obar@msu.edu (to maintain anonymity) and I will add your name to my offline contact list. If you feel comfortable doing so, you can post your name HERE instead.
If you have questions or concerns at any time, feel free to email me at obar@msu.edu. I will be more than happy to speak with you.
Thanks in advance for your help. We have a lot to learn from you.
Sincerely,
Jonathan Obar --Jaobar (talk) 15:46, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
Regarding RfC/U
[3] I actually did read some of the evidence, and was planning to post an opinion after going through the rest of it. Insofar it would have been along the lines of "meh, people tend to lampoon politicians they don't like and defend those they like; finding sources for that is not hard; among Wikipedia regulars, that is couched in WP:WEIGHT and WP:BLP terms, but it's the same old." ASCIIn2Bme (talk) 19:55, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
just a note ...
Fantastic!!! Job well done. I tip my hat to you sir. — Ched : ? 20:24, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
- oops ... if not a "sir" .. my apologies. It's just that I try to have a short wiki-memory, but I had a gut feeling there. — Ched : ? 20:28, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
- Your gut is correct, I am of the male persuasion. Thanks for the praise, I was beginning to wonder if I was the only one who had ever noticed this phenomena. Beeblebrox (talk) 22:32, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
- Not only the phenomena, but what impressed me was your sound and sage advice in how to deal with it. I know we've crossed paths many times over the years .. and there's just always a good feeling associated with my thoughts when I see your sig. Just that I found an excuse to drop by and say hi .. lol. :) — Ched : ? 23:16, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
- Your gut is correct, I am of the male persuasion. Thanks for the praise, I was beginning to wonder if I was the only one who had ever noticed this phenomena. Beeblebrox (talk) 22:32, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
csd decline
I understand the reason for your decline, and agree. I knew the page probably didn't qualify, but I was WP:IAR based on the flood of pages that that editor had created that all seemed questionable (and the vast majority of which were speedied, by others). I was taking a shortcut and hoping to get away with it, but you rightly busted me. Gaijin42 (talk) 21:50, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
Bahram Nouraei
Hi my friend, I saw your final point in this AfD. I'm a little confused with that, do you really think that he's notable or it was just a consensus to keep? And did you count the SP and convassings in the consensus? This article is never important for me and doesn't matter whether it kept or not and sure that there is no objections about it, but I just want to know your opinion about this article as a user who wanted to comment "Keep" or "Delete"? Thanks you. ●Mehran Debate● 06:32, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
- I thought my closing statement was pretty clear about how I came to the conclusion that we keep it. Since you say you don't actually care anyway I don't see any reason to elaborate on it any further. Beeblebrox (talk) 17:46, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
- I didn't expect to see such answer. I do apologize. ●Mehran Debate● 05:56, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
- No need to apologize, I'm just having trouble understanding why you would want further explanation regarding something you feel is unimportant and does not matter. What I can tell you is that I don't really have an opinion on the article itself, as it was my task to act as a closer and not a participant in the discussion, so I only evaluated the discussion in order to determine what consensus was reflected by it, and how I arrived a t the conclusion I did is detailed in my closing statement. Beeblebrox (talk) 09:05, 13 February 2012 (UTC)