Talk:Battle of Edington

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Actual Locations. There is little clear evidence of locations of either the fort to which the danes retreated or of the battle itself. My problem with the Wiltshire site is that it is over 76Km from Athelney and requires an army to cross tidal marshes and fording several difficult rivers and then to attack up a steep gradient. Attemts to war game a win in Wiltshire show the possibility as remote. Ethandun means a hill or down in an empty place or possible an isolated hill. This isolated hill has to offer a tactical advantage to Alfred. The Somerset Levels had many isolated hills at that time from the imposing Brent Knoll with Battleborough at its base to Burtle (so called) Hill that was a dune just 8 foot above high tide. Edington on the poldens is on a ridge of hills so is only an approximation of an ethandun. Having written Narrative Verse and NOT History about the campaigns I am well versed in the issues and have come to the conclusion that historians seem not to have got all the details right as yet. As is said: "more research needed" (for verses google IWVPA Wessex Sagas)

Horrible Description

The Description of this Battle is very poorly done, and to confusing to follow. Other battles and campaigning need not be mentioned when talking about the Battle of Eddington itself. You digress way off topic and mention things that should be talked about in "Events before the Battle"

Yes, I've created an "Events before the Battle" section. Dzw49 (talk) 21:08, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Copyvio?

This edit [1] constitutes almost the entire article and has references to publications that the editor didn't even bother to add. I'm guessing it's copied from somewhere else. Without the references and source of this huge edit, I'm afraid it should be removed. --Ronz 23:59, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Reported to Wikipedia:Copyright_problems/2007_September_5/Articles --Ronz 00:05, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps, but I am not convinced enough that it is a copyvio. Anons also can greatly expand an article. Garion96 (talk) 14:48, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Not a copyvio. I wrote this as a research paper for school and decided it would be useful here, so I added a (suitably trimmed and edited) version. I don't know why I didn't add the works cited list then; I've been meaning to add them since I noticed the omission, perhaps a month or two later, but just somehow never got around to it until now. Golwengaud (talk) 14:00, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject class rating

This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 08:57, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Alternative battle site

There are new arguments - reason to doubt that the battle of Edington was in Wiltshire, but happened in the village of Eddington - on the north :side of the Polden Hills and the Sedgemoor - in Somerset. The hills had a Roman road along them, which linked the town of Ilchester to the :port of Combwich on the river Parrett. In the same year (a few months before in 878), party of Vikings led by Ubbe Ragnarsson, brother of :Ivar the Boneless and Halfdan Ragnarsson, landed on the coast at Combwich with 23 ships and twelve hundred men. They were defeated whilst besieging :the fort of "Cynwit" (Battle of Cannington). They would have retreated to the river, and the Roman fort which stood at the only defensive mound :allong the river, at Bridgwater. Alfred was just 6 miles south at Athelney. Guthrum would have followed Alfred South, using the rivers and the :Bristol Channel. The fortress mentioned after the battle may have been Bridgwater, where the survivors of the battle of Cannington may have :been recovering. Thus not distant Chippenham. Further arguments to support this lie in the fact that a defeated Guthrum was baptised at Aller :(Enmore church, as claimed, did not exist at this time) which is just 4 miles (South) away from Eddington (Somerset) and a peace treaty was signed :at Wedmore - 3 miles North of the village.

I do believe a reference would be in order here (see WP:NOR). SwordSmurf (talk) 23:14, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Proposed move to Battle of Ethandun

I agree that Edington is the most likely site for the Battle of Ethandun, but I find the name and contents of this article quite wrong, indeed, frankly misleading. Our only source for the battle is the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle, which calls it the "Battle of Ethandun". Many, like me, think the site was probably at Edington in Wiltshire, but the movement which changes the name to the "Battle of Edington" is not a scholarly one, and it won't do to state this location as a fact. We should surely move this article to the title "Battle of Ethandun" and then put the points of view about the three most likely sites. Any comments? Dzw49 (talk) 05:00, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

As no one commented, I have now moved this to Battle of Ethandun. Dzw49 (talk) 00:24, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Requested move

Battle of Ethandun → Battle of Edington – WP:COMMONNAME. The name of this article was at Battle of Edington from 1993 until it was moved on 1 February 2009. The reason given for the move was not based on reliable secondary sources but on one primary source. I propose that it is moved back, because Battle of Edington is the most common name used in reliable sources since 1992 (46/847 Google Scholar, 131/514 Google Books) -- PBS (talk) 07:20, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

• Comment I think you mean 2003, since Wikipedia did not exist in 1993... 65.92.182.149 (talk) 08:24, 16 February 2012 (UTC)