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Another Black Girl Lost

This song has been confirmed NOT to be on the album.[1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.228.145.233 (talk) 02:02, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Merger Proposal

This page for The Don (Nas song) was recently created. It has no sources and very little information for it to stand alone as an article, so I propose it be merged into this article since it is a song on this album. Comatmebro (talk) 06:49, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Disagree; it's standard for singles, whether independant releases or as part of an album, to have their own pages on WP.--Chimino (talk) 05:07, 14 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Is there a policy or guideline that states that? That contradicts what WP:Notability (songs) says: "Most songs do not rise to notability for an independent article and should redirect to another relevant article, such as for the songwriter, a prominent album or for the artist who prominently performed the song... Notability aside, a separate article on a song is only appropriate when there is enough verifiable material to warrant a reasonably detailed article; articles unlikely ever to grow beyond stubs should be merged to articles about an artist or album." That policy supports merging. Comatmebro ~Come at me~ 21:22, 21 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm adding Accident Murderers to the merge proposal for the same reasons. Based on WP:notability (songs) these song articles do not meet the notability criteria and are unlikely to expand beyond stubs. Comatmebro ~Come at me~ 06:25, 26 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Accident Murderers

Salaam Remi did not co-produce this song. No ID is the only producer. I put the reference of the official tracklist. Not some random site that says otherwise. User 108.228.145.233 keeps undoing this and putting Salaam Remi back to the article. By all the conversations that he's been involved, he clearly is a disruptive user. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Renangms (talkcontribs) 00:57, 12 July 2012 (UTC) There is nothing disruptive about what Ive been doing, Ive been citing my MANY resources & ALL of them have listed Salaam Remi as a co-producer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.228.145.233 (talk) 18:17, 14 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Review

With my revision to the article, I restored the Observer review. Regarding the publication's notability, XXL is for hip hop albums, whereas The Observer reviews all albums, which I'd think would make it an NPOV choice over XXL; the latter rates albums, or only hip hop albums in its case, higher than other critics [1]. In any case, the template as it is now is a more neutral representation of critics' ratings, and w/Slant's near-perfect rating included, XXL's would be a bit too partial to the few critics that gave the album more than a four-star, or equivalent, rating. Dan56 (talk) 17:37, 23 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

-With all do respect, Dan, that's bull. XXL does NOT rate all hip hop albums with high marks. The bias with Wiki editors is astounding. It's as if you guys don't want to show that one reviewer actually appreciated the album to its fullest extent. I think it's more "biased" to remove a critic's point of view and be so selective about it based on your own POV.74.109.42.182 (talk)

WP:Fancruft: The point of the ratings template to represent all the ratings accurately and neutrally (WP:ALBUMS) It is less comprehensive and more selective to replace a three-star/equivalent rating that is one of multiple critics' rating with a five-star/equivalent rating that comes from only one publication, that happens to specialize in hip hop music... and to add it twice. I like the album too, which is why I cleaned up and expanded this article, but I dont prioritize my taste/opinion in music over encyclopedic value. If I did, I'd too want to include only the highest ratings available. It's not bias, it's objectivity, and Slant's rating is already included to represent the ratio of those handful of high ratings over four stars. Dan56 (talk) 01:24, 24 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

-I fail to see your point (I understand it, but I don't get it). It can be argued that Rolling Stone is biased/less neutral towards older acts, but I'll leave that argument alone since XXL claims hip-hop coverage exclusively. Punk, metal, and hardcore bands get reviews from, well, sites that specialize in punk and metal (PunkNews, Lambgoat, AbsolutePunk and so on). So, I kind of find this action coming more from your personal preference (yes, I saw the WP:ALBUMS link). See a list of reviews in the past that have been approved for XXL on Wikipedia: 1) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Get_Rich_or_Die_Tryin%27_%28album%29 2) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Be_%28Common_album%29 3) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enter_the_Wu-Tang_%2836_Chambers%29 and the list goes on forever. Are you going to remove those? If XXL does indeed fall into this category you've put them in, then either Wiki is inconsistent with enforcing its rules, or there is currently editorial bias at play. Neither of which can be taken very seriously. 74.109.42.182 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 03:06, 24 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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