Talk:Huey, Dewey, and Louie

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The boys are named "Tupu", "Hupu" and "Lupu" in Finnish. --Acolyte of Discord 17:21, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

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Got rid of vandalism "known to the fans as penis" 141.161.124.53 05:51, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

How come there's no mention of Disney? --seav 15:24, Sep 27, 2003 (UTC)

Since 1930 Walt Disney had little to do with the comic strip and comic book versions of his characters. And by the time of Huey, Dewy and Louie's creation he is said to have been neglecting his animated shorts in favor of animated features. So Walt is usualy considered to have little to do with their creation. He was still the producer of most of their films though. User:Dimadick

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Uh - brother of Daisy Duck? How come I have never heard about that?

It seems a strange theory. Usually Donaldists consider Daisy as part of another Duck family, just happening to sharing the same name.

I agree, it seems strange to me too. I've never heard that connection made.ManoaChild 01:28, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

Okay, nobody has come up with any support for this, so I'm going to delete it. If someone can come up with evidence of a Daisy Duck connection, they can add it back in. ManoaChild 01:52, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

It has been established many times over that Daisy is Donald's girlfriend. I don't think Disney would portray Donald dating his sister! wikipediatrix 14:21, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

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There should be something added about "Phooey", the fourth brother appearing when the artist has made a mistake. (There actually was an Egmont story published, that explained his existence as some sort of freak-of-nature, dimensional warp, doppelgänger kind of thing. Weird stuff...)

I added this comment now: "On a few occasions, there is a fourth nephew, slipping through by a mistake of the artist. He has been named "Phooey" by editor Bob Foster. One short Egmont comic explained his existence as some freak-of-nature, dimensional warp, doppelgänger kind of thing." I think it's strange that no other donaldists seem to have read this weird little story. I read it in a swedish Donald Duck weekly somewhere between the late 90's and early 00's. I give an overview of the story. Donald and HD&L is at home, together with a guest. Suddenly a 4th nephew pops out of nowhere, and disappears as suddenly as he has arrived. The guest is naturally shocked, and Donald feels obliged to explain this rare phenomenom. He tells of how this 4th nephew on rare occasions pops out of nowhere, and how they were at first just as shocked as the guest, but as time passed by, more and more got used to him. In the end, he tells of a story where Phooey even helps and rescues the ducks while they have gotten into trouble. This calms them down, as they realize he is basically a nice guy. The 4th nephew never gets a name in this story, but I can't believe this could be about anybody other than Phooey, considering the overall weird/surreal aspects of it. Anyway, it's funny tidbit...

Aahh, I found the Egmont comic explaining Phooey's appearance: [1] [2] 惑乱 分からん 16:48, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Translating the Phooey Story

I've been able to translate so far one speech balloon: "Th-that is a fourth nephew! An exact copy of the others!" (I am certain this is the correct translation. I think Donald replies: "Yeah, I'd better explain that." But I'm not sure. Is there somebody fluent in Swedish out there?)Das Baz 19:24, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Japanese names for Huey, Dewey and Louie

What are the Japanese names for Huey, Dewey and Louie? --User:Angie Y.

"Hyuui, Dyuui and Ruui", creative translation, huh? 85.226.122.158 01:22, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

That's not translation but transliteration which is a pretty usual practice to "convert" English names and words for Japan. Keep in mind that these are not written in Latin but Katakana. This explains the change from R to L which is not a joke, there's simply no such thing as an letter "L" in Japanese. Basically, the names are not translated at all (just phonetically adapted), the conversion back and forth is simply lossy with respect to the spelling. --82.141.58.104 18:44, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Although they are called "Hyūi", "Dyūi" and "Rūi" now, they were called "Hyuii", "Dyuii" and "Ruii" in the 1960s, so the names must have changed at some point. (Stefan2 19:18, 22 April 2007 (UTC))

Or the transliteration style just changed. — trlkly 08:58, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Serial comma in title

I'm wondering if the serial comma should be included in the title, causing it to read: Huey, Dewey, and Louie. The proper title of HUEY, DEWEY, AND LOUIE JUNIOR WOODCHUCKS uses the serial comma in the indicias of those comic-books. Kaijan 00:16, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

I don't think so, few readers should make the connection that H = D & L, making an ambiguity which the serial comma is supposed to remove. Btw, I think the Comic Book really should have the title "H, D & L - JW" myself (or at least splitting the title up into two lines). 惑乱 分からん 12:44, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

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Carl Barks's Characterization of the Nephews

The main article says that the nephews have basically the same personality and while this may have been true in theatrical animation, in the comics written and inspired by Carl Barks, the ducklings are each distinct, at least after their very early appearances. Long time readers of Barks's stories could often recognize which brother was which, even in black and white by their dialog and actions.

These personalities were later developed in the Quack Pack tv show.

Huey (red cap) is the leader, he starts things, makes decisions and tells his brothers what to do. He's usually the one to explain things to other people too, though sometimes this is Dewey. In arguments with Unca Donald, Huey is usually the spokesman with Dewey spouting facts and Louie shouting "Yeah!" Normally, Huey is the polite duckling, however, a political animal. He understands relationships faster than the other two.

Dewey (blue cap) knows things. He's usually the one looking things up in the Junior Woodchuck manual or quoting it verbatim. He also pulls random facts out of nowhere, deciphers codes, builds gadgets and operates machinery except Huey drives vehicles. Dewey's the double talker in the group when that skill is needed but Huey can also double talk. Dewey is the strategist of the group, Huey is tactical leader and Louie is operations.

Louie (green cap inside, yellow cap on covers) is the daredevil and fighter. He's the one who dives into fights or jumps across chasms, though sometimes Huey initiates such things if all three are going to get involved. When Louie has to explain things, he'd rather show than tell and he's the last one to run from something scary unless Dewey is standing around trying to figure out what it is. Louie's the one who can put on an innocent act best and often shills for his brothers' schemes.

Halfelven 01:13, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Turning of the Triplets

I read once that originally in the Carl Barks stories, the three Ducklings were just as mischievous as in the animated cartoons, etc., but a life-threatening experience caused them to promise to reform - and reform they did. Unfortunately, I cannot remember or provide the references. I suspect that joining the Junior Woodchucks may have greatly helped them to become good kids. Das Baz 15:46, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Grandma Duck was also a good influence in reforming the wild kids. Das Baz, aka Erudil 21:11, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Ella's Poor self-esteem

Poor Ella had such low self-esteem that she even signed her letter to Donald using the cruel nickname "Dumbella." No wonder she totally gave up on her wild children and disappeared from their lives. Das Baz 15:47, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Phooey, the Leprechaun and the Guardian Angel

Phooey the 4th Duckling appears in a 2006 Donald Duck comic book, a special Saint Patrick's Day issue. Donald thinks he's Huey. Turns out he's a kindly old Leprechaun, out to ensure Donald gets the gold in order to pay the bills and donate to the needy. Maybe all appearances of Phooey are this Leprechaun in disguise. On the other hand, he appears to be far more generous and benevolent than Leprechauns are supposed to be. Maybe he is a Guardian Angel, and his appearance as a Leprechaun is just as much a disguise as his appearances as Phooey. Note that Donald, Huey, Dewey and Louie have often been saved from great dangers in their many adventures by fantastic flukes and impossible coincidences. Phooey the Angel at work. Das Baz 15:47, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

There is a nice section on Phooey as part of the Wikipedia article on the Duck family (Disney). Das Baz 16:19, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Deuteronomy Duck

I think I'd rather be called "Dewdrop" than "Deuteronomy." Della and her husband, at a loss for a good name, must have decided to open the Bible at random and use whichever name the book opened to. Of course it opened to the first page of Deuteronomy. Das Baz 16:45, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Names in Israel?

According to the Russian magazine Микки Маус (Mickey Mouse) #29/2006, the names in Israel are "Эздо, Дездо, фе Йоо". This would transliterate to something like "Ezdo, Dezdo, fe Yoo". Unfortunately I can't find any corroboration of this and wouldn't know how to render it in Hebrew. Gr8white 06:09, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Foreign names

Per comment on the revert. it probably fits best under Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not#Wikipedia is not a dictionary. This also is the English Wikipedia, there are interwiki links if people want to see a foreign name. Also this material has already been deleted before, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Disney characters' names in various languages Garion96 (talk) 12:10, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

I see a complete article on every character in the Disney universe with every known translation as a fairly different thing than having a list in a character article. Certainly, the wikipedia.nl folks think so, because these lists are found in the articles on "Oom Dagobert" and "Kwik, Kwek, and Kwak". I won't get into a revert war, but if a few people chime in and say they think the list was appropriate, I'll put it back, and expect you to abide by that consensus. Kww 16:40, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

I don't work on the Dutch Wiki, but for me on that wiki only the Dutch and English names should be mentioned. Since it's the Dutch Wiki but the character originated in the USA. The name of She-Hulk (random example) is also translated in some languages, but there is no in other languages section there. Or film/book titles, many countries translate the title but we don't have the foreign names there either. (for a while it was on Harry Potter but that was deleted). Garion96 (talk) 19:48, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

That Huey, Dewey, and Louie have different names in all other languages is notable simply because it is so uncommon! Take Tom and Jerry for example, they are simply called Tom and Jerry the world over, in almost any language! And that is normally the rule, not the exception. Even Donald Duck is most often called "Donald" and whatever is "duck" in that language. The same goes for Mickey Mouse etc. In Dutch however almost always the names of Disney (and all other comic) characters are not translated at all, Donald Duck = Donald Duck, Mickey Mouse = Mickey Mouse etc etc. A "list of Dutch versus American names of characters in the Disney universe" would therefore be exceedingly boring! And I assume they would be in most other languages, as they to normally leave the names mostly as they are, only translating the "duck", "mouse" etc part.

The three brothers have somehow escaped from this scheme, and have different names in any other language! True, you can look up the names following the links to the different language versions of the page, but that does not give you the instant recognition of this fact that the list gives. Perhaps it's therefore this cultural difference between the Dutch and Americans that explains why the Dutch think the list is relevant, (because they feel its uncommon) and the Americans think its not. Also notable for Dutch is that instead of normal boy names, like in all other languages (except Indonesian), the Dutch translator decided to use Onomatopoeia for the names, and translated them to "Kwik" "kwek" and "kwak". But there is more... these names, can also both be explained as "sounds a duck makes", but still have a distinct meaning too. "Kwik" means "fast" or "agile", "kwek" means (more or less) "the sound a talkative person makes", and "kwak" means (more or less) "to throw down something", as in the Dutch sentence "Kwak dat daar maar neer" meaning "just throw that stuff down there". Mahjongg 04:03, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

There are thousands of languages out there. We shouldn't have to list every single translation. The names are different in different languages because the writers seem to prefer keeping alliteration, onomatopoeia, or rhyming in the names.-Wafulz 14:02, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Actually, very few of the Dutch names for the ducks and related characters are the same. Donald is the only one I am aware of that kept his. Oom Dagobert, Katrien, Zwarte Jongen, Junior Woudlopers, and Willie Wortel are all Dutch-only names.Kww 16:35, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

True, most characters from Donald Duck magazine got new names, and the writers for DD-magazine seemed to have been very creative indeed. But I was talking more about general principles. For one thing, the Dutch are actually -more- inclined to adapt foreign words etc in their language than most other countries. For example, the she-hulk is called the she-hulk in Dutch too (actually this is not a very good example because contrary to the above claim the She-hulk actually is called She-hulk, or "miss-hulk", in most other languages too). But when talking about famous comic characters, and as long as the name is simply a common name and not a "description" ("Junior woodchucks" etc), there certainly seems to be a -worldwide- trend to simply adopt the existing name. As in my Tom and Jerry example. Other examples are Felix the Cat and Bugs Bunny. Anyway, I was just trying to interpret why the Dutch (and a.o. the French and Spanish) Wikipedia articles have this list (and similar lists for other characters, such as Scrooge McDuck, "Oom Dagobert" etc), but the English ones do not. And why this list seemed so relevant to me. And yes, you can't mention every possible name in such a list, but that does not mean that such a list can't make a point by showing some examples. But perhaps just showing a list without any explanation why such a list is relevant was not a good idea, as it's then just trivia. Mahjongg 11:14, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Name origin

I note conflicting edits on the origin of Dewey's name, with no formal reference for either story. Someone needs to cough up a reference, or I will kill both versions. Kww 02:54, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Age.

Was any specific age ever given for them? I'm especially curious of if an age was ever given in DuckTales. But an age given in any appearance would be appreciated. Thanks.--66.156.137.183 (talk) 01:26, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

IIRC, an age was specified in one DuckTales episode, where the nephews took over $crooge's business. At some point in that episode, one of the nephews asks a policeman if children of their age really were allowed to make such decisions. As far as I remember, the nephew mentioned his exact age when talking to that policeman. Might have been somewhere in the episode "Yuppy Ducks". (212.247.11.155 (talk) 15:00, 20 January 2008 (UTC))

Yeah, in "Yuppy Ducks," it said they were ten. 70.249.163.132 (talk) 03:30, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Sources

I noticed that tag on the article, and I have to agree with it ... we are woefully undersourced. As it stands, this article is in violation of WP:V and WP:N. That's a real shame, because Huey, Dewey, and Louie are about as notable as they come. Articles have to be based on independent material written by third parties. We can use stuff from the comics and TV shows, but just to flesh out the article.

Does anybody even know of some decent scholarly type material on the ducks?Kww (talk) 23:35, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

I can't help with sourcing, but I do want to point out something. An article cannot fail WP:N, the subject does. Notability focuses on whether something has enough sources to be an article, not whether those are included in the actual article. — trlkly 09:06, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Jamie Hawkins

Yeah, Huey, Dewie, and Louie's father is not named Jamie Hawkins. There's an explanation for the confusion here: http://dcf.outducks.org/viewtopic.php?pid=9816 (apparently Don Rosa just wrote that in for whoever he was giving an autograph to). Unless someone can cite something more solid, I'm just going to get rid of that. -- Poisonink (talk) 17:59, 26 August 2012 (UTC)