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Serious NPOV issues here

The article needs serious help. General man on the street consensus about the group is that they are a cult. Yet there is almost no information in the article critical of the group. Yet almost every news article i have ever read about them was critical. We can all figure out rather easily why this is. Snertking (talk) 17:24, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Also rather telling is that "moonies", the more common name for the group, the one that most people know them by, is not mentioned once in the article, yet appears multiple times in the titles of the sources cited. Snertking (talk) 17:27, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Is this article even about the Moonies at all? I cannot find any of the following: "brainwashing", "deprogramming", hatred towards parents, radical anti-communism, extorting financial wealth from members family's, nor any references related to that members must give all of their income to the Unification Church and in return receive some of it back and live for months on end in commune-type setups. In Europe at least they are considered partially illegal and there were many court cases regarding kidnapping as well as coercion. <--- these are very serious issues and thousands of families have been destroyed by this "church" over the past decades. In fact there was also government sponsored psychotherapy for those that had quit the cult in order to help them reintegrate into normal society and with their families. Furthermore the Moonies have shrunk significantly since the 1980s due to many of these criticisms and are not recognised as a formal church either in many countries - yet the wikipedia article does not raise any of these major, and defining, critical issues. Which suggests strongly that this article has been censured heavily by its supporters. After reading the article I have a bizarre understanding of the Moonies one that does not reflect my own experience nor notions conveyed in mainstream media discussions over the last two decades. It is a complete whitewashing of reality. - Please, this article must be fixed as it is quite irresponsible.--Lexxus2010 (talk) 13:51, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Modifications Needed

This article is not only incomplete, but it is maliciously misleading. If the suporters of the "church" are not willing to accept that there is a "CONTROVERSIAL" section, then the editor board REMOVE it. Please add your comments below. 206.108.168.141 (talk) 00:03, 31 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Missing aspects

Missing aspects are in special their stance on the topics

Evolution
Homosexuality
Women's rights
Abortion
Pre-marriage intercourse
Rights of atheists — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.161.186.219 (talk) 11:19, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Uncited material

I removed this paragraph. It is now ~~uncited~~ not cited by an online source so people can check it out and besides is just one person's opinion and also says something negative about an individual (although unnamed so not so bad):

Leo Sandon Jr. wrote in Theology Today in 1978 supporting the AJC's charge of antisemitism in Unification Church teachings, but noted that the church argued that this resulted from "Korean ignorance of Jewish sensitivities". He stated that he was more troubled by the "unmistakable anti-semitism" of "a highly placed and veteran Korean Moonist".(ref)"More troubling is the unmistakable anti-semitism I heard expressed by a highly placed and veteran Korean Moonist who interpreted the failure of the New York Board of Regents to grant the Barrytown seminary a charter as being the result of the international communist and Jewish conspiracy. The communists and Jews characteristically are linked, he explained. I have heard Robert Shelton, veteran American Klansman, allude to the same conspiracy." Korean Moon: Waxing or Waning?, Leo Sandon Jr, Theology Today, July 1978.(/ref)^{[dead link]}

Hang on. Published books aren't an acceptable source? Also; why is the only deleted section also the only section that has anything negative to say about the religion? Penumbra 2k (talk) 03:08, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]