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the "earthworms" in the room with the cylinders

It seems these are the source of the "snake-like creatures" in the plot synopsis -- they are exposed to the dark liquid, and mutate, later attacking Fitfield. Perhaps this should be added to the article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.89.161.213 (talk) 09:55, 10 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It's not immediately obvious (my litmus test for this being that it took me a few viewings to twig) so there is a case for mentioning it. It's Milburn the biologist whom they attack.CaraPolkaDots (talk) 02:34, 15 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

In the movie it was intentionally shown that the native earthworms of the planet were exposed to the leaking liquid, and therefore this almost certainly implies that the directors wanted us to infer that the snake-like creature that killed Fifield was one of the mutated earthworms... Therefore as you said, this is a case for mentioning it in the plot summary if we can make it concise (I am not good at making it concise.) Also of interest is the reason why the cylinders started to leak the dark liquid, given that these cylinders appeared to be intact for a long time. Was it the presence of humans nearby? It cannot be just the new air when David opened the door to the "temple room", since there were other cylinders also in the corridors leading to the door. Another (somewhat distantly related) observation is that it appears that 2 of the 4 hypersleep chambers in the control room of the spacecraft that David discovered, had mid-size chest-buster holes on top, clarifying to us the fate of each of the 3 crew members who managed to escape into the spacecraft in the original hologram at the beginning of the movie (the 4th got decapitated by the door). FormalLogician (talk) 19:00, 26 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Lindelof has already confirmed that the snakes are indeed worms mutated by the black liquid. [1] —Flax5 19:26, 26 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
In this case I suggest extending the sentence "David secretly takes a cylinder, while the remaining cylinders begin leaking a dark liquid" as follows: "David secretly takes a cylinder, while the remaining cylinders begin leaking a dark liquid, which comes in contact with the native earthworms on the ground." Does this look acceptable? FormalLogician (talk) 14:22, 27 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
They were mealworms by appearance, though likely aren't representative of the Earth species in the film (unless somehow introduced by humans), nor necessarily native to LV-223. Validusername 「Talk」 20:51, 27 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
If the worms were not native to the LV-223, then why would the Engineers bring these there? In any case, it now seems like a good idea to mention the worm-like creatures in the plot summary, as it would add continuity to explain the snake-like creatures. FormalLogician (talk) 18:32, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I reckoned 3 out of the 4 Engineer hypersleep capsules are chest-burst – you have to watch carefully as they are never all in shot at the same time. It’s not mentioned in the film (it would have been quite easy to have a character say “Look! “What are these Holes”? which suggests there may have been an explanation which got cut out) and I wouldn’t have noticed had I not seen it mentioned on a website.

There must have been more than four Engineers as Milburn and Fifield find the pile of dead bodies (or at any rate their armour, as the atmosphere in the corridor is not the same as inside the Head Chamber where they find the preserved head-in-a-helmet) burst from the inside. The underground ship, as shown on the scan on board the Prometheus, is down a long corridor so the Engineers fleeing into the Head Chamber (from what? Mutated earthworms? We don’t know) are not necessarily the same ones on board the spaceship or the ones found dead in the corridor.

I didn’t notice any cylinders in the corridors – it’s just rock and the control panels on the walls. There are of course loads more cylinders in the cargo hold of the Engineer ship, but why they don’t start sweating and leaking when humans breathe on them, I don’t know. Could be deliberate (they could be inside an outer capsule for the space journey, designed to break on impact or something), or could just be a continuity oversight.

There are quite a few plot loose/dead ends like this – David finding Alien glue on the control panel, which on first viewing makes the viewer think the explorers are about to be attacked by xenomorphs, unless it survived without hardening for 2,000 years; the chest-burst Engineer capsules which are never mentioned; the mystery liquid (“Martian Piss”) on the floors of the corridor which is not frozen despite below-zero temperatures – which may be because the script went through several drafts. Who knows. Can't really post any of that without a source though.CaraPolkaDots (talk) 11:44, 16 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I counted 5 or 6 Engineers running in the corridor (although they are only all visible in the first shot) and about 8 or 10 "dead bodies" (actually remains of their armour, I think) in the pile which Milburn and Fifield discover.CaraPolkaDots (talk) 12:09, 21 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I believe that the "mystery liquid" that Fifield and Milburn noticed on the floors of the corridor was the black liquid that leaked out of the many cylinders. In the region where Milburn was attacked by the snake-like creature, there were many leaking cylinders also. The only leaking cylinders were not in the big "temple room" where the giant statue of a humanoid head and the murals were discovered. But you are right about the "Alien glue" that David noticed on the control panel that opened the door of the Temple Room, it seems to indicate the presence of Alien creatures, but it is not clear where they went after killing the Engineers. But the DVD will be released in October 2012, and the additional 20 minutes plus another 30 minutes of deleted scenes should reveal more details about the chest-buster holes on the hypersleep chambers of the Engineers. FormalLogician (talk) 13:56, 23 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Milburn and Fifield are attacked in the Temple Room (as you call it), which they had earlier refused to enter - F is just asking M what he thinks the Giant Head is ("some kind of God? Something they worshipped?") when the "snakes" appear. To repeat, I didn't notice any cylinders in the corridors - only in the Temple Room and later non-leaking ones in the cargo hold of the Engineer ship. The "Martian Piss" must resemble water, because that's what the explorers mistake it for. When they first go into the Temple Room Fifield says "what's all this black stuff?" and Milburn says something inaudible which sounds like "pistachio". So I don't think the mystery liquid is the same as the black liquid, unless it turns clear if it lies in corridors for 2,000 years. This discussion is going to get deleted if we're not careful.CaraPolkaDots (talk) 11:59, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Folks, let's not turn this into a general discussion of the film. Remember WP:NOTFORUM and let's stick to discussing the article ;-) --IllaZilla (talk) 16:10, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Release Date

Please, add the release date in Japan: August 24, 2012 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.42.164.140 (talk) 16:15, 1 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not relevant. Only the earliest date and those in the home country and countries of production are relevant. Otherwise we would be listing a dozen or more dates. --IllaZilla (talk) 16:18, 1 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with IllaZilla. Polisher of Cobwebs (talk) 20:36, 1 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ridley explicitly says, "It's about Space Jesus"

I'll link to it, but because of the rules of WP, it "doesn't count" even though the man himself ("Word of God") is that it is what it is.

http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/did-ridley-scott-just-ruin-the-mysteries-of-prometheus-20120614 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.43.18.19 (talk) 03:59, 18 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

http://cavalorn.livejournal.com/584135.html?nojs=1

http://cavalorn.livejournal.com/584373.html?nojs=1

http://cavalorn.livejournal.com/584565.html?nojs=1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.43.18.19 (talk) 03:20, 18 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Tony Scott one of the producers?

According to Pinewood Studios, here : http://www.pinewoodgroup.com/our-studios/uk/news/statement-ivan-dunleavy-death-tony-scott , the late Tony Scott co-produced Prometheus. His name should be under the Producers list in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.27.232.184 (talk) 11:43, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

He isn't credited on the poster so he probably only produced through Scot Free Productions with his brother. Will have to wait nad see what the film's credits say, but as far as the available info is concerned, the infobox only contains full producers with the "producer" credit and Tony Scott isn't one of htem.Darkwarriorblake (talk) 14:49, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Music Section - Chopin's music used in film but not mentioned here

I realise this is Good Article-nominated, and so naturally it is important to maintain its integrity, but there is a small but significant amount of music by Chopin in this film which is not mentioned in the article. Do you agree that it should be included here, even if briefly? Helmhholtz (talk) 22:23, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Provided it can be sourced, it can go in the Music section. --IllaZilla (talk) 22:40, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks IllaZilla Helmhholtz (talk) 11:12, 23 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It's the "Raindrop" Prelude and I think it's mentioned in the credits at the end of the film.CaraPolkaDots (talk) 11:59, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Religious Propoganda

Can someone edit the article to point out the obvious pro christian bias in this movie. Given its filmed in the 21st century and set 100 years in the future I would have hoped that religion would be gone at that point especially in the scientific community. Understanding that this is not a discussion of the movie the fact that the only character that survives is constantly waving a crucifix around should be pointed out for those of us that are atheists (or even of other religions) so we don't have to sit through christian propaganda. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stfual (talk • contribs) 11:02, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Then don't sit through it? Darkwarriorblake (talk) 11:28, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
This would not be appropriate content for Wikipedia unless it has been discussed by reliable secondary sources, which it doesn't seem to have been. Wikipedia has a neutral point of view and does not permit original research; your interpretation of a "pro-Christian bias" seems to be just that: your opinion, irrelevant to an encyclopedic treatment of the film. Pointing out religious themes so "atheists don't have to sit through it" is not among Wikipedia's goals. --IllaZilla (talk) 14:09, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps you should take a look at the Wikipedia page on Battlefield Earth and see how neutral Wikipedia are on the subject of a religion that presumably Christian editors don’t approve of. The whole article is a smug attack on scientology not the movie. It is a fact in the key character in this movie is a Christian. This is unusual in movies about the future. The symbolism of removing the crucifix when giving birth to the unfathered monster and the whole speech about faith = wear your cross and you will survive is a not so subliminal endorsement of the Christian myth. If she had been wearing a Muslim Hijab or Buddhist bracelet or been a scientologist it would have been stated as a matter of interest or concern or being unusual. Christian symbolism and messages are so ingrained in Hollywood movies "neutral" = American Christian educated editors don’t feel the fact worthy of comment. If she had been a muslim it would have been mentioned. Also read any interview with the director. The aliens were going to kill earth because they killed jesus ! http://www.prometheusforum.net/discussion/1575/ridley-scott-engineers-they-are-dark-angels/p1

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