Talk:T-ara

What happened?

It was looking good before..who changed it? Blueknightex (talk) 06:02, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Individual bios are required because a group like this does not warrant a entry for each member(like the Beatles page) Anybody interested in the group is interested in the members. Takarada (talk) 15:17, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

there has been a lot of debate over members' pages mostly due to the mess at Girls' Generation. A user seems to have taken offense and has blanked members' sections on different girl band pages to make a point. I obviously don't agree with this, but at the same time, the section wasn't sourced and seemed to have trivia. Without reliable sources, the section shouldn't be added. Feel free to re-add it, though, if you can find some. SKS (talk) 01:11, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Being a Leader and how it is part of a member's Position

I was wondering..since T-ARA is now rotating leaders shouldn't we state under the "Position" section which years they were a leader as? Like for eg. EunJung "Leader(2009)" and Boram would be "Leader(2008)". Otherwise we shouldn't even put 'Leader' on it. Just Vocalist and Rapper. Otherwise, we should just let the readers find their own way on who's the leader on which single/album release on this article. Besides it was already stated at the top section that they change leaders. I'm sure that they can understand why in the Members section there would be no leader. Blueknightex (talk) 04:52, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Music videos?

Is the music videos section really necessary? There's already a section in the discography page devoted to music videos. Other artists' articles don't even have it listed. Chikazuku (talk) 19:58, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Edit request on 9 December 2011

May I please edit T-Ara's member section, there is a mistake there. PellChilli (talk) 10:08, 9 December 2011 (UTC) THANK YOU. PELLCHILLI

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Also, it looks like you should be WP:AUTOCONFIRMED and can edit the article yourself now. --Jnorton7558 (talk) 22:11, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

Positions in T-ara

May I have a brief outline of the Members positions in the band...

This is what I know so far:

Boram - Vocalist, Main Dancer

Qri - Vocalist, Main Dancer

Soyeon - Leader, Main Vocalist, Lead Dancer and Spokesperson

Eunjung - Vocalist, Main Rapper

Hyomin - Lead Vocalist and Rapper

Hwayoung - Lead Rapper and Sub-Vocalist

Jiyeon - Lead Vocalist and Lead Dancer

Provide a brief explanation why they are that position too... I know what I know because I've listened to all of their songs...

Position problems

This page is now being similar to Girls' Generation page where everyone just adds whatever the members' position they want. Please don't add the positions without a proper link to reference it. Penpaperpencil (Talk) 16:12, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Television

I think that the info on the members' individual television activities should be omitted? They already have their own articles where the information would be more useful. --Chikazuku (talk) 23:46, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

New member Dani pre-debut on the Timeline history?

Is it ok if we can place Dani as pre-debut on the members timeline now? She is pretty much a new member of T-ARA already but she's not going to make her debut to the group yet. Masterpeace3 (talk) 00:39, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Ok I just did it. Perhaps we could just add the red-line later on when she eventually debuts with them on December. Masterpeace3 (talk) 23:42, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Twitter Controversy

Will there be a mention of the twitter controversy? Here's the AllKPop article on it - http://www.allkpop.com/2012/07/t-ara-members-tweets-following-budokan-concert-receives-some-criticism

The CEO of CCM has announced that there will be a major announcement on July 30, 2012 at 1 p.m. KST regarding the controversy and T-ARA. 24.142.37.169 (talk) 14:52, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

I'm surprised no one has added anything on it yet actually, but I guess that's a good thing. I'm pretty sure it'd lead to a plethora of edit wars due to opinion issues. HerroLink 02:21, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Hello, I'm Noh Eun Ji. I already wrote a section under "Controversies" named "Hwayoung's contract termination and Twitter "bullying."" Please edit the section as needed and re-sentence as you want. I simply wrote the section based off of what has been confirmed and what the fans and netizens think (because Core Contents Media and Kim Kwang Soo honestly give very poor explanations that are either lies or simply don't add up)... Thank you~! :) Bakcholong (talk) 00:06, 31 July 2012 (UTC)bakcholong

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:T-ara/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: AdabowtheSecond (talk · contribs) 03:20, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

• Will review comments to follow AdabowtheSecond (talk) 03:20, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
• Very interesting article, unfortunately, at first glance, this will require quite a bit of work to reach GA quality. Here are a few of the major issues:

1. Citations: A lot of the article is lacking citations. Every ref should be cited no bare urls.
2. Of the citations that are present, checklinks is showing that about 4 or so are dead. I'm skeptical of the reliability of some of the others, a couple links are to wordpress blogs, which are probably not reliable.
3. Another major issue is the prose quality. It looks like it will need a lot of copyediting to reach GA quality. Also, one, two, three sentence paragraphs really break the flow, these should be organized into larger paragraphs.
4. Fix disambiguation 1
5. Dead refs need replacing 1

• This doesn't meet the quickfail standards, so I'm willing to leave this open for the customary week, although it will take a lot of work to get it there. AdabowtheSecond (talk) 03:30, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

• The article has entire phrases without citations, several prose issues, etc. I would consider a quick fail in order for this article, so you can close it now if you wish. Also, you can point out several issues to provide a guidance to the nominator on how to improve the article. Regards. —Hahc21 04:12, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

• Assessing this as an quikfail then. AdabowtheSecond (talk) 15:38, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Hwayoung coverage

Hi, I noticed that a lot of the stuff I added to the controversy section was removed, with "highly opinionated" being given as a reason. However, a lot of the stuff left behind is also highly opinionated, and paints T-ARA as being 100% guilty.

Here's what I had added:

"On August 28, 2012, Hwayoung herself tweeted about the issue, saying that "It is true that there were confrontations due to differences in opinions with the T-ara members while I was promoting as part of T-ara. However, with the stories about bullying going around and the situation growing worse, my heart was in pain. Both sides have also been really upset and hurt by the distorted facts [that have come out]. However, there were times when I was happy while we were all under one roof, so I want to forget about the past and want us to cheer each other on with smiles on our faces. You all showed so much love, care, and attention to T-ara, so I’m very sorry for having caused concern and worry through this incident to everyone." [88]

Some netizens have been heavily criticized for their reaction to the issue, including sending death threats to T-ARA, tweeting the members of T-ARA images of smashed T-ARA CDs, and egging the CCM building. During one of Soyeon's interviews, she said that she and the other members had been afraid to leave the house because of these threats. A group called "T-Jinyo" was formed to "demand the truth from T-ARA", but this quickly fizzled out - although there was a strong online presence, almost no-one showed up to a rally. [89] Other netizens stepped forwards to defend T-ARA, revealing that the "evidence video" put forwards by netizens as "proof" of the bullying was actually variety show clips that were taken out of context and manipulated to put the T-ARA members in a negative light. So far, over seventeen accusations of bullying have been proven false. Some online news agencies have come under fire for using inflammatory wording in their article titles about T-ARA, thus spreading more misconceptions and causing more trouble (for example, AllKPop changed the title of an article from "T-ara’s Boram ruined Hwayoung’s umbrella?" to "T-ara’s Boram destroys Hwayoung’s umbrella?"). [90][91] Ironically, AllKPop would later go on to post an editorial about the "witch hunt" against T-ARA. [92]"

I agree that this probably isn't written that well, but the article as it is now leaves out a lot of important information - namely the fact that Hwayoung herself said there was no bullying, and that several incidents that were claimed as bullying were revealed to have been provoked by sites like AllKPop, and a video containing "evidence" of bullying has been proven to be 98% false. Also, if "AllKPop is not a reliable source", then why are there still five (at least) instances of things being sourced to AKP?