Talk:Bambi

References to use

Please add to the list references that can be used for the film article.

• Bruckner, Lynne Dickson (2010). "Bambi and Finding Nemo: A Sense of Wonder in the Wonderful World of Disney?". In Willoquet-Maricondi, Paula (ed.). Framing the World: Explorations in Ecocriticism and Film. Under the Sign of Nature. University of Virginia Press. ISBN 0813930057.

Illustrator of Bambi

French Illustrator Xavier Saint-Just did the famous paintings of Bambi for the book. I've created the article for Xavier as best I could, I can't find much information on him except that he continued to illustrate up until the late 60's. I think it may have been a pen name/alias. It's very hard to find supporting references to him on the internet. Anyways this article on Bambi should probably link to him somewhere. I can't really think of how or where to edit it into such a large article, I'm sure some clever person can. Abacusbox (talk) 12:18, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Why? He didn't have anything to do with the film. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 05:25, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Popular Culture

Field and Stream and Outdoor Life, other hunting magazines say that this is a representative of what they call "Animal Rights Nuts". One even had a toon with women dressed AS the title character saying "GIMMIE BS!". I had copies of these magazines that I had found. This toon was in one of them. Powerzilla (talk) 23:38, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

I don't think that is something that really belongs in this article, as it's more a reflection of those magazine's editorial stance than anything actually in this movie. Personally, I think anyone who tries to make political hay out of a children's animated movie is a little desperate for attention. (The Seven Dwarves, were they gay or what?) Beeblebrox (talk) 00:18, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

I agree that it does not seem relevant enough for this article. Lots42 (talk) 22:04, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

"Reception" section

The section title "Reception" seems to focus solely (uncited, mind you) on Bambi's mother's death. Are there no reliably sourced critiques of the film that can replace this information? Box office info? Someone to back up these claims of traumatizing little children? Anything? Cactusjump (talk) 22:28, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Since no sources have been found that can verify that this film traumatized children, I'm preparing to do major cleanup on the section. The weasel-wording causes the section to lose all its credibility. Cactusjump (talk) 19:36, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Cleanup done, found more reliable sources at Disney's own website. Cactusjump (talk) 18:22, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Oh man...I see the link goes to a "Coming Soon" webpage now, as they are reconstructing the site. Bummer. Cactusjump (talk) 16:47, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Another source

= How to Be Like Walt page 152-155 has more production info on the film. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 08:53, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

ITV2 censor

The link to the source is dead, and I'm slightly sceptical that it happened. I googled a few possible search terms, but the only sources have used Wikipedia to make the claim. Can we get a valid source for this or remove it? Nja²⁴⁷ 22:02, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Bambi - forest

I don't know a lot about the production of Bambi, but it is commonly told in San Carlos de Bariloche, Argentina, that the drawings for the trees of the forest in Bambi were done there. There is a kind of tree called an Arrayanes that has striking red bark that grows in profusion on an island in Nahual Wapi Lake. Apparently the crew of the Bambi movie went there to draw the trees, and indeed, in looking at the film and the trees, one could easily imagine that this is true. This story needs a reference - I am too far away, so I hope someone from Bariloche can confirm this.

Sookevista (talk) 00:33, 17 January 2010 (UTC)Sookevista

Diamond Edition release date...

Disney's official Beauty and the Beast website has announced that Bambi: Diamond Edition will be released in Spring of 2011. It has also been announced on UltimateDisney.com. Koolz03 (talk) 23:22, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Bluerose64, 12 July 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} Change reissue dates to "Bambi was reissued several times through each decade" as that makes a lot more sense. Same with the other classic Disney films.

Bluerose64 (talk) 14:46, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

 Done I revised the entire section to improve readability and remove uncited, specific information. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 15:56, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

I'll ask this here, since it's about reissues: Has this movie been edited since its original release? I saw Bambi in the theatre when I was a kid, and I seem to recall seeing Bambi's mother topple after the gunshot during their "running away from the hunter" sequence. It was a VERY powerful image for me, and I just wondered if Disney "sissied" it up a little in future releases. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.159.186.68 (talk) 03:51, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Bluerose64, 13 July 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} Bluerose64 (talk) 08:38, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 14:20, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Bluerose64, 25 July 2010

{{editsemiprotected}}

Bambi was reissued to theaters throughout the decades for classic confirmation in a restored version even when it was on super8mm. Bluerose64 (talk) 08:07, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

 Not done Please provide a suitable reliable reference for your statement so that we can add it to the article. Thank you. Chevymontecarlo 08:48, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Music?

No songlist at all?? 66.252.163.190 (talk) 02:32, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

{{editsemiprotected}}

In "Infobox film", the music was written by Frank Churchill and Edward H. Plumb.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.134.159.114 (talk • contribs) .

I second that request. 68.17.110.122 (talk) 01:18, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Please give a reference, and ask again. Thanks,  Chzz  ►  02:55, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

{{editsemiprotected}}

Does IMDb count as a reference? Or what about the opening credits to the film itself? 64.134.147.164 (talk) 17:56, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Depends, can you provide a link? A lot of IMDb is user input, so no. CTJF83 chat 16:48, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

•  Note: Please use {{helpme}} for questions. Thank you, Alpha Quadrant ^talk 17:18, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Budget

In Neal Gabler's book about Disney, the budget is said to be 1,7 million dollars. If that's a reference that's good enough, perhaps the number could be added in the article. 84.210.60.115 (talk) 15:06, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Release section

While Bambi has been released in several different home media formats in the past 20 years or so , no “Home media” subsection presently exists in the article. WP:FilmProject style guideline on Home media

The Simpsons Movie article & Transformers are two articles that I thought utilized the “Home media” subsection appropriately. Following the style guideline linked above, I’ve drafted a revision in my Sandbox: User:HipJorge/Bambi. I want to be transparent and make sure that everyone is aware that Disney is a client of my company, so I understand this may be a potential conflict of interest. Do you think my userspace draft would best fit as a subsection of the “Release” section (as seen in The Simpsons Movie), or under “Reception” (as in Transformers)? Thoughts? HipJorge (talk) 23:45, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Just wanted to update you all on this... I've added some details about the diamond release in the "Release" section. If anyone has any questions or comments about the changes, I'd be happy to discuss them. Thanks! HipJorge (talk) 18:18, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Title of Wikipedia articles for book vs. cartoon

The current title of this article about Bambi as Disney cartoon is "Bambi" whereas the book's is "Bambi, A Life in the Woods." As a result, searches either internally on Wikipedia or externally (e.g., Google) find the cartoon before the book.

This situation seems improper. The book was every bit as popular as the cartoon (hence Walt Disney's decision to make the cartoon) -- and remains so. Also, it is the original work.

Therefore, unless someone else strongly disagrees, in 60 days I plan to change the name of this article to "Bambi (film)" and have "Bambi, A Life in the Woods" redirect to "Bambi" as the original source. Aboudaqn (talk) 14:53, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

I disagree that the book is the primary topic over the film. However, I am not sure if the film is the primary topic or if neither of them can claim to be the primary topic. The key criteria in the primary topic guidelines is what readers are most likely to be searching for, and there are no guidelines that say that the original work should come first. An exception can be made when the topic has educational value, but I am not sure if that is evident here. (For where it applies, the Hinduism concept avatar is the primary topic, even though most people may be looking for the 2009 film.) I would recommend requesting a move per WP:RM to determine a consensus. Erik (talk | contribs) 15:11, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

The illustration for this article completely undermines your argument. Clearly, Disney felt the book held primary importance: it dominates their original movie poster. However, if you prefer to go by standard Wikipedia practices, then you will of course accept the standard Wikipedia practice of citing what is effectively "[Book title] (film)" for this current entry of Bambi. In which case, I will move forward with my proposed changes as of May 11, 2011. Aboudaqn (talk) 23:48, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

Top 25 Horror Films of all times

Time magazine lists Bambi among top 25 Horror Films of all times. This is of note. Bambi was cute, but also had poignant scenes of terror. http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1676793_1676808_1676840,00.html Natural (talk) 04:06, 12 April 2011 (UTC)Natural

Edit request

Bambi was produced in 1934.

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Jnorton7558 (talk) 10:20, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Spelling Mistakes!

I'm taking a break from work, and somehow found my way here. The production section, at least, has several awful spelling errors (eg. "medifore" for "metaphor").WPaulB (talk) 13:56, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

I fixed the mistakes in that section. In the future you can put the tag copyedit, with double brackets around it, in the section which will list it in the articles needing copyedit. If the whole article needs work on grammar, spelling, punctuation, etc, put the tag at the top of the article. DaffyBridge (talk) 00:08, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Directors / Writers

Bambi is one of those movies which has more than one credited individual for the direction and writing roles. That said, there isn't any valid reason (as Wikipedia is not a paper encyclopedia, but a digital encyclopedia project so having an infobox "too big" isnt valid) not having this very basic and important information about this movie. The way it was (and the way you revered to) just dumps some writers together (one of which isn't even correct) and you don't understand from that who did what (and that's without even talking about the directors left out). Look at most film articles and you'll see a list of film companies in the infobox or even in this page, a big list of actors. If the information is valid AND important AND has a place for it in the infobox, it should belong there. --Gonnym (talk) 00:01, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

While I'm not inclined to disagree with your points, I am going to take issue with how you've approached this. You made a good-faith addition to the article's infobox, another editor undid the change and gave a reason in the edit summary, and then you reverted his undo and accused the editor of not acting in good faith. The better way to handle this is WP:BRD: you were Bold in making a change, another editor Reverted your change and now it's time to Discuss it on the talk page instead of getting into a revert war. Now, on to the subject at hand ...

What is the reason, in your mind, for the names of the sequence directors appearing in the infobox? Could they not be included in the "Production" section of the article instead? Again, I'm not necessarily against your idea, but I am trying to present alternatives. As to the citation issues, I looked at it and I think it can be fixed without the {{citation needed}} tags. In fact, while you're reading and responding to this (hopefully), I'll be working on that.

--McDoobAU93 00:14, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Seeing as how i edited also the lead section and corrected a mistake in the infobox, i believe the revert itself was wrongly done (with a reason which could have just as much been automated). It wasn't a removal of what he thought wasn't a corrected addition but it was an afterthought revert, removing the infobox addition and anything else that was added. As that was the case, i reverted to the first edit. The information -could- be placed in the production, but then, what would you leave in the infobox? This isn't a classic case of one directer as i said. What would you leave in the story section? IMO, we aren't here to decide who did what, or whose job is more entitled of an addition to the infobox, we are here to represent, as closely as possible, the contribution to the film. Adding to that, 10 more lines of code won't cause the page to look bad - the starring section is a proof to that. --Gonnym (talk) 00:28, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Sticking mainly to the infobox, the intent of it is to be a summary, not a complete cast/crew listing. So really it should just be the lead director in the infobox, as it was before. As to the cast list there, I'd have no problem culling it down a LOT. --McDoobAU93 00:38, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Ok, and what about the writers section? --Gonnym (talk) 00:43, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Cut out "Story Development" section entirely. Again, this can be worked into the "Production" section as needed. --McDoobAU93 01:09, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Edit request on 10 December 2011

Category:Children's books about death should be changed to Category:Children's films about death. The former category should be at Bambi, A Life in the Woods (which is the novel on which this film is based).

In the shining light (talk) 20:08, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

 Done --Jnorton7558 (talk) 22:19, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

John Williams: Jaws

"John Williams claimed that Frank Churchill's theme music for "man" (which consisted of 3 simple notes) was one of the inspirations for the theme music in Jaws (which consists of two notes).[27]"

The reference (http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/articles/1999/14_Sep---A_Study_of_Jaws_Incisive_Overture.asp) doesn't even say anything about Bambi. Starman1984 (talk) 23:45, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Duplicate/repeated references

I notice that in the references list, several sources are repeated multiple times. Due to the list being so long, I'd like to clean it up some in the standard method of just naming references and then referring to each individual instance by name rather than listing the full details each time. I do have a question regarding the duplicate instances of the Hollywood Cartoons book by Barrier. Since no page numbers are cited for that book, is it OK to just cite it once and refer to that citation for each additional instance using the named reference, or should we try to get page numbers for it? Oldiesmann (talk) 06:22, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 4 February 2013

I find these lines in the Cast list:

    Bobby Stewart as Baby Bambi

    Donnie Dunagan as Young Bambi

Perhaps change Young to something like Toddler, because a baby is obviously young. (I don't know if this needs to be discussed.)

128.63.16.45 (talk) 19:34, 4 February 2013 (UTC)