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There is so many unsourced content on article kamal Hassan. he is not considered as the method actors of Tamil cinema please check. thanks. User:Flowers of the world (talk)

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Thank you! deletion of page " SEYED AMIR PARVIN HOSSEINI " Hello, I added a few more external links but the problem is that he is an IRANIAN film producer therefore there are not many English reliable sources to vouch for the information i have provided. There are only pages in his native language, Farsi. Please tell me what to do in order to prevent his page from being deleted. Thanks does this count as reliable source? http://www.payvand.com/news/13/feb/1053.html this one is a piece of news indicating that an ambassador has watched AMIR PARVIN HOSSEINI'S new film. also http://www.fajrfilmfestival.com/en/index.php/first/133-ambassador-of-afghanistan-to-watch-dust-and-coral this one is the official site of Iran's most important film festival and in that page it clearly mentions AMIR PARVIN HOSSEINI as a producer whose film has participated in this year's festival. in addition, I can easily contact AMIR PARVIN HOSSSEINI himself and ask him to confirm this page's validity. in fact, I have interviewed him personally. the bio in IMDB is my work too. but i don't know how i can prove all these. Ranbir Kapoor Hi! I wanted to ask why you keep reverting my edits on Kapoor's page. I mean, if you look at other Bollywood actors' Wiki pages, the "Special appearance" note is located in the Notes section. This includes articles such as Kareena Kapoor and Vidya Balan, which are featured articles now, so saying that the "Special appearances" should be located in the Role section is like refuting reputable articles like those above. Also, even Hollywood stars like Jennifer Anniston have it this way. I don't think you can just edit articles based on your own personal views... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chulbul pandey ab (talk • contribs) 12:41, 24 March 2013 (UTC) Come on!! You're refuting featured articles!!! They've been edited by experienced people! How can you argue with them? PLUS, this is the first time somebody's been editing articles like this..you just can't edit an article because YOU personally don't like it that way!!! How stupid is that! Yes, the Role column should contain info on his role. In Luck By Chance and Chillar Party, his role was HIMSELF!! You can't add "Special appearance" there!! By that logic, that would mean that you'd have to add "Lead role" for every other film role (eg. Yeh Jawaani Hai Deewani- Lead role as Bunny). You don't do that, do you?? If you think that the Notes section should only contain info about awards, then why isn't it called the "Awards" column???? And, you're not "plopping" information anywhere..it is the standard for editing! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chulbul pandey ab (talk • contribs) 13:03, 24 March 2013 (UTC) Ok, so that argument was irrelevant, but what about the other points? I'm guessing that since you didn't respond to that, you think I'm right? So, why don't we just go by accepted Wikipedia conventions, and put the "Special appearance" note in the Notes section?!? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chulbul pandey ab (talk • contribs) 00:23, 25 March 2013 (UTC) These "kids" that you are referring to are experienced Wikipedia editors who've made articles into featured articles. So, yes, if I'm trying to emulate how they edit, then there's nothing wrong with that! And you seem to have forgotten about this- "If you think that the Notes section should only contain info about awards, then why isn't it called the "Awards" column????" Chulbul pandey ab (talk) 00:38, 25 March 2013 (UTC) Yeah, well I'm still not agreeing with you on this one. It just sounds like you're the only one that wants this. I mean, if you apply this here, then that would mean you'd have to apply it to EVERY other article too! Imma ask around, and see what other people say.. Chulbul pandey ab (talk) 03:33, 25 March 2013 (UTC) March 2013 Hello, I'm Karthik Selvanayagam. I noticed that you recently removed some content without explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry: I restored the removed content. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks! Karthik Selvanayagam (talk) 16:13, 25 March 2013 (UTC) Please please please do read more good and featured articles in Wikipedia and try to learn before you make your edits. Not every edit of yours is justified and even reviewers and admins would undo some of your edits. Forget me, more experienced editors will object your edits as well. Thanks to you, I totally lost interest in editing and I may quit. Have a good life! Karthik Selvanayagam (talk) 16:18, 25 March 2013 (UTC) if your complaint was about my previous edits at Andrea Jeremiah (which you undid without providing any rational), if you look at the edit history you will in fact see that every edit DOES have an explanation, one based in policy and Manual of style guidelines. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 17:17, 25 March 2013 (UTC) About The Gangster (film) Hi Red Pen O'Doom! Yup, I've reverted your WP:REDIRECT to the director's name. Feel free to revert if you are so minded to do, but I think WP:AfD would be the better forum for this discussion. --Shirt58 (talk) 11:31, 26 March 2013 (UTC) I've removed your "discussion closed" and archive tag - do not disrupt the talk page on The Beatles I've removed your "discussion closed" and archive tag - do not disrupt the talk page on The Beatles. You can see the date with the signatures. You archived the thread for reasons other than stated. It is not your decision to decide when to archive other editors comments on talk pages. I will report you to admin for disruptive editing since you chose to archive a thread only a few hours after the last post while the discussion is still ongoing through user talk pages (check my edit history) and may return to the original article once we have finished discussing some finer points of article editing and its relationship to The Beatles article. Sluffs (talk) 01:53, 27 March 2013 (UTC) no, you are wrong. I archived it because it was not and had not been about your proposed edit to the article for some time nor any other points directly related to the Beatles article content. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 05:34, 27 March 2013 (UTC) Red Pen of Doom - hmmm - interesting name. Go on then have it your way - you obviously should consider a career in teaching then you can cross out with a red pen all the mistakes your pupils make. It would also give everyone here a rest from the impending swipe of doom from your phallic red pen. lol Sluffs (talk) 21:52, 27 March 2013 (UTC) Regarding your edits in Andrea Jeremiah page I see that you are just removing parts from this page. Please note that the information added aren't from any gossip sites. It's plain facts. Having seen all your edits, it seems you are doing PR agency work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coffeemugs (talk • contribs) 18:19, 27 March 2013 (UTC) Esben and the Witch unsourced are you serious, nobody put's sources for the genre of music they have, I'm going to give you a list of successful band's that don't have sources and the Wikipedia pages are fine. Hole (band) Babes in Toyland (band) Nirvana (band) Pixies (band) The Breeders The Dead Weather The Kills I could go on for ages and I know it's not that much but you know, these bands are highly successful (although babes in toyland aren't MASSIVE)if sources where necessary there would be some, the only one I could fine was The White Stripes. Yes we all know there are lots of content in Wikipedia which doesnt yet meet our standards. When there is a conflict or disagreement about what should or shouldn't be in an article, directly applying the policies and guidelines solves the issue. If none of the people involved in the discussion can provide a valid source for their position, then none of their personal opinions belongs in the article - and the disagreement is over. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 21:48, 27 March 2013 (UTC) Just ignore Red Pen of Doom. His user name tells you everything you need to know about what role he has decided to give himself on Wikipedia. Blame it on the parents - usually a domineering father. Someone in his childhood gave him this perception of himself as judge beyond all others. What Red Pen of Doom doesn't realise is that sometimes the ink well runs dry and then we just have a scratchy pen. lol Sluffs (talk) 21:56, 27 March 2013 (UTC) your so petty the red pen of doom and thank you sluffs for talking sense and you are correct I am so hurt. I am going to tell my mommy that you said I play by the rules! -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 22:27, 27 March 2013 (UTC) Glad to see you have a mum - is she the one to blame for your blind and overbearing adherence to the rules? You could try relaxing on the red pen strike-throughs - at least then it will give new editors a chance to judge their own work rather than have you judge them. I also wouldn't want to make you feel uncomfortable here but you obviously don't understand the nasty impact that your over-zealous approach has on making others feel uncomfortable. All editors have mums and dads but only one editor here received a red pen from his. Someone should take that pen and shove it where it really belongs. lol. Back in the pen case I'll add just so you don't strike me with your metaphorical pen of doom. Oh no! there's a big red pen standing outside my door - blimey you are quick on the "draw". lol Sluffs (talk) 22:49, 27 March 2013 (UTC) mommy mommy he says i have a pen!-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 23:38, 27 March 2013 (UTC) Well they do say "the pen is mightier than the sword" but I think in this instance its safer for the world if we make sure you never become "The Red Sword of Doom". lol Sluffs (talk) 02:29, 28 March 2013 (UTC) I see Godwin's law has been proved correct again. Ghmyrtle (talk) 12:11, 28 March 2013 (UTC) this is getting interesting violetcries oh my god your still going and this time with a threat, get a life. not at all a threat. a simple statement of fact. policies require that challenged material must be supported by reliably published sources before it is returned to the article. repeated violations of policy after being advised of policy is actively disruptive behavior. disruptive behavior will be ended by a block. simple facts of the way things work around here. you can follow policies and be a productive contributor enhancing the quality and status of the articles of the bands you are a fan of; or you can be actively disruptive and end up being blocked while bringing the articles of the bands you are a fan of into a bin of turmoil and ill repute. it's your choice. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 18:04, 28 March 2013 (UTC) ssstttiiiiillllllllll gggggooooiiiiinnnnnngggggg can't you just leave me alone I don't mean don't post on my talk page cause there is more meanings for that like... STOP PRACTICCLY STALKING ME ALWAYS POPPING UP AND CHANGING EVERYTHING I DO SAYING THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH IT AND LET ME GUESS YOUR GONNA RESPOND IN SOME STUPID WAY LIKE OH YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW THE POLICIES, JUST GO AWAY YOU PETTY, UM, UN-FISH When you have made it your position and habit to make edits that are not within policy and guidelines after you have been told about them, it is entirely proper to "follow you" to see if your edits other places are within policy. See the notice in every edit box " Work submitted to Wikipedia can be edited, used, and redistributed—by anyone— (emph added). You do not have a right to expect that your work will not be altered. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 19:46, 28 March 2013 (UTC) I'm fine letting people edit my stuff but with you it's constant please sign your posts. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 20:22, 28 March 2013 (UTC) for you, no THANK U Hi RED, Thank you for keeping the page List of highest-grossing Indian films worldwide perfectly.This is the correct order but I have done it so but resulted in vain. Box Office India website is far far better than NDTV,CNN IBN ,TV9,Indian Express and India Today. Enthiran is the highest grossing Indian film of all time as said by India Today ,The Indian Express ,[[NDTV],TV9 and CNN-IBN with minimum grossing of 400 crores. India Today [[1]] Indianexpress[[2]] TV9[[3]] NDTV[[4]] CNN-IBN[[5]] [[6]] [[7]] I also want u to add Dasavatharam film which has grossed 2.5 billion as said by Hindu and other souces. [[8]] Protect dis page frequently sir.Thank u sir for being a best wikipedian.Hatts of to u sir. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rajafree (talk • contribs) 07:04, 28 March 2013 (UTC) Suspected socking Suspected socking going on in Kunchacko Boban‎ and Dulquer Salmaan‎. The user User_talk:Mollywood1 seems to be the sock of blocked user materialthunder JK (talk) 10:15, 28 March 2013 (UTC) Keaton Henson If you want to be helpful edit and try and make my Wikipedia page for Keaton Henson (User:Violetcries/Keaton Henson) better so it can be reviewed positively and made an actual article, Keaton Henson needs one by now.Violetcries 21:09 28 march 2013 make that Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Keaton Henson Violetcries 21:45 29 March 2013 help pls help pls Why you removing my edits in references in wikipedia. The only user is you who deletes my edits. Mastermanu2012 (talk) 05:11, 29 March 2013 (UTC) Editing reliable sources Ref-List of highest-grossing Indian films worldwide Don't edit on you whim. It is agreed that boxoffice india is the most credible box office source.If you have any, doubt check BOI references given on the page. Article also says that rankings are based on Boxoffice india. You should consider at least that.Different papers can give different data.On all the articles,boxoffice information is given by boxofficeindia. If it is not available then only,other source is taken into account. Please consider that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.212.33.195 (talk) 20:47, 29 March 2013 (UTC) Why are you behaving as if You are new to such articles on wikipedia. Box office india specializes in box office information. While other articles are generally unverified aricles on net,which are not even published in news paper.On every wikipedia article in Indian movies, references from Box Office India is given. So, we should do that here also. If any other mistake is there,you should correct that,not main source. Actually the numbers you are mentioning, were claimed by Enthiran producers.other news sites simply repeated their claim.Read the article on Enthiran. User 101.212.33.195 is right. We should give data on basis of Box Office India.If the data is not available in Box office India then only, we should take help of other sources. Otherwise everyone will start claiming that a given data given by Box Office India is wrong.Kumarila 03:01 30 march 2013 —Preceding undated comment added 21:32, 29 March 2013 (UTC) You can not edit on your personal opinion. News paper articles that you are giving, don't specialise in boxoffice data.They gave the data reported by Enthiran producers. Box office india is an independent source,whose sole work is to track boxoffice data. If you do like this,I can give articles giving different box office figures for different films. We should follow a common parameter for ranking.I think your bias is reflecting in you edits. Please refrain from this..Kumarila 17:43 02 april 2013 —Preceding undated comment added 12:13, 2 April 2013 (UTC) !!!!! Why do you keep reverting my edits?? Yesterday, on Ranbir Kapoor's page, I added information about his reviews for Bachna Ae Haseeno and Anjaana Anjaani; fixed up all the punctuation errors, added references for his future projects and removed the unnecessary info; and you reverted all of this because of one sentence that had an NPOV concern. Why are you doing this? Did you even read my edits? You know, people work hard here to improve articles, but from what I know, you seem to be doing the complete opposite!! Please, next time, read my (and other peoples') edits, and then revert anything that seems incorrect. Don't just carelessly revert huge chunks of information that's important! Chulbul pandey ab (talk) 05:51, 30 March 2013 (UTC) George Komsky The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. Excuse me, you are rude and mean. I reverted your edits because you deleted so much that it was confusing to clean up the page. Please stop contributing for a day and allow me to revert to how it was before, that way I will make all the changes to suit your tastes and complaint. You are being mean and spiteful, you should be ashamed of yourself. Ngoesseringer (talk) 09:42, 2 April 2013 (UTC) All I'm asking for is for you to give me a moment to clean up the page, Can you just be reasonable? Please? Ngoesseringer (talk) 09:45, 2 April 2013 (UTC) Very well, I shall do so. I would appreciate it you would be more courteous minus your 'crap' comments in the changes section and let the process take shape from here. And please don't write me anymore as I would rather not correspond with you. Ngoesseringer (talk) 09:51, 2 April 2013 (UTC) Please stop writing me, the appearance of your username inspires a gag reflex that I want to avoid before bed. Seriously, don't write me anymore, and don't offer anymore advice. Listen, it is relevant because 23 million people saw him sing the national anthem on live TV. For a performer/artist like him that is a BIG deal and is an accomplishment. Are you so thick as to no understand that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ngoesseringer (talk • contribs) 10:14, 2 April 2013 (UTC) Ngoesseringer (talk) 09:54, 2 April 2013 (UTC) "for a performer like him" requires a reliable source to make any connection between the size of the audience and the subject of the article. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 10:17, 2 April 2013 (UTC) Hi -- since I've reported this editor at AN3 for a 3RR violation, you'll need to be careful now as well. —Nomoskedasticity (talk) 10:35, 2 April 2013 (UTC) Hey doom pen, just wanted to let you know that I wrote the following to an admin: Also, have you noticed how belligerent the editors have been? Is this normal and acceptable behavior? Please take a look at their comments: 'sources are crap' 'person is a nobody' 'charities are biased and lying'... Etc. it's really offensive and I thought wikipedia was supposed to be above that. All those lovely comments are yours. Maybe you can recommend how I can report your belligerent and nasty comments officially? Being such a knowledgable user I'm sure can point me to the right direction? Ngoesseringer (talk) 09:20, 3 April 2013 (UTC) You know nothing about PR and even less about charity work. I don't know what you do for a living, but I'm sure its not anything to do with these subjects. Stop being so assumptive, you have no idea what you're talking about. Ngoesseringer (talk) 04:04, 4 April 2013 (UTC) Just do me a favor and watch this: (this was recorded from NBC and uploaded) I know that you're right, that its not applicable based on wiki rules, but please watch it. Just tell me that you can see its a live broadcast with no commercials. I know I represent this person, and you hate me for it, but this truly happened and I'm not exaggerating anything it truly did: https://vimeo.com/56063290 Ngoesseringer (talk) 05:01, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

a question for User:Ngoesseringer about your relation to User:BlackstonB

Since you have asked me not to post on your page, I will ask here and hope that you see it and respond before I take the next appropriate step. Can you explain this series of edits? [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] and how you are related to User:BlackstonB that you think its appropriate to edit xir comments?-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 11:20, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

still waiting for a response. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 04:09, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

"Hatchet job"

I'm not sure which content you think is unreferenced or poorly referenced at William C. Rader. Edits like this are pretty clearly not constructive, as they don't identify which sources are unreliable. (For instance, a citation to the journal Science is not reliable? Really?) I'd like to invite you to participate constructively in discussion.

Also, I will remind you at all times please to avoid engaging in personal attacks. Sławomir Biały (talk) 11:17, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Sockpuppets of flowers of the world

I've added some new accounts whom I strongly suspect to the sockpuppets of Flowers of the world.Check. Is this enough or should I reopen the case? I also suspect User:Pen.cil.80. JK (talk) 14:47, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

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Please refrain from deleting the citation about the patriots game viewership. Your subjectivity on doing so swayed the vote of a later editor who specifically stated that because the performance was not broadcast to live TV, like a playoff game, it was irrelevant. But it was as on a live broadcast and the editor missed that because of YOU. I have brought this to the attention of an admin. Please do not remove he citation to unduly sway any more editors. Selmaflora294 (talk) 23:01, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

No really cares about bets you are willing to make, and your assumptions are just assumptions. I will consider what to do. But you are a rude editor (I have read the history) and should exclude yourself from further edits. I will certainly bring it to the attention of an admin because I think you are both biased and ill informed. Editors like you give wikipedia a bad name. Selmaflora294 (talk) 01:30, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

You have not done your homework. The source from diablo magazine is reputable and mentions the performance. Because they are in the Bay Area they could not have known about the performance unless they saw it National TV.

Also, see here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lOUubkE8Sk

If you still don't believe that it's true, then you are purposefully doing all this to sabotage the article. And I will gladly report that to an admin. Selmaflora294 (talk) 01:47, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Sir, whoever you are, you are way out on a limb here. You don't realize what you're saying.... The magazine chooses what to write about and in this case had to have had visual confirmation of the subject performing. They could not have posted such a thing unless it was true, and on TV. Your being so obstinate about this matter points to your personally trying to keep and significant aspect of notability off the subject's page, clearly because you know it would sway other people voting on deletion. I could make the assumption that you are acting as a saboteur. But I don't know for sure, therefore I ask only that you use your eyes as well as common sense. Please reconsider your position. Selmaflora294 (talk) 01:59, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

I apologize if I've offended you, I was simply sayin that assumptions are pretty worthless. I understand that you probably did not do anything purposefully, but you are also, despite knowing wiki terms, guilty of not doing your homework. I can see why you are against the 23 million number. I have done further research and discovered that the real ratings for when the subject sang (the start of the game at 8pm eastern time) was 17.7 million people. So I will make the chane immediately to reflect the facts. But do agree that your ignoring this matter might have influenced unduly one of the 'Delete' votes? If not others? Selmaflora294 (talk) 02:17, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

One of the voters specifically said that he didn't think singing the anthem is significant because it wasn't televised. You knew FULL well that it was and removed the source based on a technicality. Now that I have done th research and ascertained that an exact amount of 17.7 million were watching the moment that subject sang at 8pm sharp, I hope that the numbers and the Nielsen ratings are proof enough to make it a notable and appropriate part of the subject's article. Again, I apologize if I've offended you, I just don't see why you didn't do the research. Why you didn't watch the video where you can see with your own eyes that it was on national TV. Why you would make the specious argument that a PR agency manipulated an entire editorial staff at a major publication for ONE client. More importantly, if he was SO important as to be able to manipulate an entire editing staff at Diablo Magazine to write about a performance that no one according to you saw, he would definitely be worthy of a wikipedia article (joke). Seriously sir, consider what you are arguing... It's highly dubious. Selmaflora294 (talk) 02:30, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

3rd party sources did cover the matter, and despite what you may think its a big deal to sing at a major NFL football game. You have to be selected and go through a rigorous audition process. Obviously it's not written about in newspapers! But it's a huge deal, you simply probably work in a differ field and don't respect it. Selmaflora294 (talk) 02:46, 4 April 2013 (UTC) |}

Kony

Thanks for the move to the U.S. I should have put there. Kennvido (talk) 06:15, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

George Komsky

my reply here Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:29, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

OK, thanks for sockpuppetry link, my AGF may have been misplaced. I understand your point about synthesis, but as I said, I've no intention of arbitrating on the content of an article which has given me nothing but grief. I still have scars from Australian Cattle Dog where only threats of blocking everyone insight got the battles off my talk page Jimfbleak - talk to me? 07:06, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Don't put nonsense on my talk page. 80 (talk)